[FRIAM] gone Meta on Twitter, GoodReads, etc.

[Steve Smith]

Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs 
Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative 
recommendations:

    https://alternativeto.net/

which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious how 
challenging "too many choices" can be...

After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond 
Twitter-like things altogether.  I doubt I will be willing to throw 
GoodReads over for anything else because of the participating base of my 
own personal/family network there.   I can at least avoid clicking 
through a GoodReads recommendation to order from Amazon.

    https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/

I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...

Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?


On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
>
> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
>
>
>
> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>> Thanks, Glen.
>>>
>>> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url 
>>> that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in 
>>> itself.  Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto 
>>> for video and audio recordings and other objects of public interest.
>>
>> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two 
>> problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the 
>> too often spotty reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly 
>> good reviews myself, so I've no room to complain really.
>>
>> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url" 
>> point.   It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't 
>> done the work to understand how new entries are made... are they 
>> always required to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT 
>> affiliated with the book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of 
>> the books I seek in Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when 
>> their book-description (and cross links to related works, author, 
>> etc) are particularly apt, but that is also spotty.   I use Goodreads 
>> mostly to follow what family/friends are reading and what *they* 
>> think of their reads.
>>
>> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by 
>> private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is 
>> disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   
>> Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
>>
>>>
>>> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos. 
>>> Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art 
>>> Institute of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math 
>>> to art students.  She has a public reading for kids scheduled in 
>>> Jersey City this month.  Her definition of category theory is "the 
>>> mathematics of mathematics" which she expands as "the logical study 
>>> of the logical study of logical things."
>>>
>>> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to 
>>> index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a 
>>> blistering price in every available format.  I found a pdf on the 
>>> internets.  It's details the history of working out the chemical 
>>> identity of water. Two themes are that 1) the consensus answers to 
>>> scientific questions often change in anticipation of the arrival of 
>>> corroboration, 2) there are often multiple acceptable answers to 
>>> scientific questions. These are possibly consequences of being a 
>>> realisitic realist.
>>
>> Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our 
>> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like 
>> double-negatives, and Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical 
>> logicologoy of logics and realistic realists are ... *special*?  
>> While some may prefer "turtles all the way down" sometimes just a few 
>> turtles deep suffices?
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first 
>> reading of this thread.
>>
>>>
>>> -- rec --
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>     There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>>>
>>>     On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>>>     > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned 
>>> some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered 
>>> yet another book.
>>>     >
>>>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>>>
>>>     > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
>>>     > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math, 
>>> Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>>>     >
>>>     > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying 
>>> algebra basic.
>>>     >
>>>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>>>
>>>     > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific 
>>> Progress
>>>     >
>>>     > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns 
>>> taken along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read 
>>> again.  Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's 
>>> ratchet and pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable 
>>> definitions of temperature from thermal confusion.
>>>     >
>>>
>>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>>>
>>>     > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist 
>>> Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>>>     >
>>>     > -- rec --
>>>
>>>     --     ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ
>
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