[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

[Gillian Densmore]

You forgot getting Bushed twice.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:59 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> We been Musked, we been Trumped, the Russians and Ukranians and much of
> Europe has been Putined and perhaps Balsinaro (and his followers have
> been sumarrily Lula'd)?  One of the more satisfying targets for my own
> doomscrolling is to find examples of Corporate Execs and Republican
> AHoles being KatiePortered.  SNL fans love watch loving people get
> McKinnoned.
>
> I'm probably just begging to get Ropella'd here...
>
> On 11/7/22 12:04 PM, glen wrote:
> > Musk *is* the joke. A joke of a person ... like we now use the verb
> Borked. "Musk" could be shorthand for Poe's Law, exquisitely explained in
> the recent Onion friend of the court filing.
> >
> > "You were totally Musked, man. It's not even bad faith. That guy
> couldn't joke his way out of a paper bag."
> >
> >
> > On November 7, 2022 10:33:38 AM EST, Marcus Daniels <
> marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
> >> Where’s the sense of humor now?
> >>
> >> <
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
> >
> >> [64260315-0-image-a-4_1667788476734.jpg]
> >> Musk threatens to boot Twitter account impersonators<
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
> >
> >> dailymail.co.uk<
> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub
> is fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is
> reasonable, given the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is
> distributed, very unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported
> to Mastodon. That, unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of
> free speech. You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to
> your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
> >>
> >> Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
> >>
> >> On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter vs
> Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative
> recommendations:
> >>
> >> https://alternativeto.net/
> >>
> >> which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious how
> challenging "too many choices" can be...
> >>
> >> After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond
> Twitter-like things altogether.  I doubt I will be willing to throw
> GoodReads over for anything else because of the participating base of my
> own personal/family network there.   I can at least avoid clicking through
> a GoodReads recommendation to order from Amazon.
> >>
> >> https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
> >>
> >> I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
> >>
> >> Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
> >> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
> >>
> >> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> >> Thanks, Glen.
> >>
> >> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url
> that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.
> Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and
> audio recordings and other objects of public interest.
> >>
> >> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two
> problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too
> often spotty reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews
> myself, so I've no room to complain really.
> >>
> >> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url"
> point.   It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done
> the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required
> to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the
> book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in
> Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and
> cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that
> is also spotty.   I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are
> reading and what *they* think of their reads.
> >>
> >> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by
> private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is
> disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
> >>
> >>
> >> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.
> Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute
> of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.
> She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month.  Her
> definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she
> expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
> >>
> >> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to index
> on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering price in
> every available format.  I found a pdf on the internets.  It's details the
> history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two themes are that
> 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often change in
> anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often multiple
> acceptable answers to scientific questions.  These are possibly
> consequences of being a realisitic realist.
> >>
> >> Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our
> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and
> Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and
> realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer "turtles all
> the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
> >>
> >> - Steve
> >>
> >> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first reading
> of this thread.
> >>
> >>
> >> -- rec --
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com><mailto:
> gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>     There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
> >>
> >>     On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> >>     > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned
> some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another
> book.
> >>     >
> >>
> >>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
> >>
> >>     > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
> >>     > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math,
> Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
> >>     >
> >>     > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying
> algebra basic.
> >>     >
> >>
> >>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
> >>
> >>     > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific
> Progress
> >>     >
> >>     > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken
> along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.
> Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and
> pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature
> from thermal confusion.
> >>     >
> >>
> >>
> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
> >>
> >>     > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist
> Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
> >>     >
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