[FRIAM] Getting Verbed...

Mon Nov 7 16:58:10 EST 2022

Oh and SCOTUSed, the tech sector getting Biden'd and Demed.  The Sunshine
Protection act getting tantrum'd. Yes I will stay petty about the dems and
the house have a chance to do *something * other than complain about other
people and be in campaign mode all the time
I get news'd a retarded poloticioned (so poloticion.) your a senator that's
900 years old acting like a 3 year old eh? congrats on being a waste of air.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 2:47 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
wrote:

> You forgot getting Bushed twice.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 1:59 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> We been Musked, we been Trumped, the Russians and Ukranians and much of
>> Europe has been Putined and perhaps Balsinaro (and his followers have
>> been sumarrily Lula'd)?  One of the more satisfying targets for my own
>> doomscrolling is to find examples of Corporate Execs and Republican
>> AHoles being KatiePortered.  SNL fans love watch loving people get
>> McKinnoned.
>>
>> I'm probably just begging to get Ropella'd here...
>>
>> On 11/7/22 12:04 PM, glen wrote:
>> > Musk *is* the joke. A joke of a person ... like we now use the verb
>> Borked. "Musk" could be shorthand for Poe's Law, exquisitely explained in
>> the recent Onion friend of the court filing.
>> >
>> > "You were totally Musked, man. It's not even bad faith. That guy
>> couldn't joke his way out of a paper bag."
>> >
>> >
>> > On November 7, 2022 10:33:38 AM EST, Marcus Daniels <
>> marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>> >> Where’s the sense of humor now?
>> >>
>> >> <
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>> >
>> >> [64260315-0-image-a-4_1667788476734.jpg]
>> >> Musk threatens to boot Twitter account impersonators<
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>> >
>> >> dailymail.co.uk<
>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11397213/Musk-threatens-boot-Twitter-account-impersonators.html
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> On Nov 6, 2022, at 5:53 PM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  That you call Mastodon 'twitter-like' is discomforting. ActivityPub
>> is fundamentally different.I guess the premature registration is
>> reasonable, given the politics of the moment. But the 'fediverse' really is
>> distributed, very unlike twitter. I really love that the Gab twits ported
>> to Mastodon. That, unlike Musk's perverted conception, is a real example of
>> free speech. You really are free to turn open source and open protocol to
>> your weirdo subculture. We just don't have to link to you.
>> >>
>> >> Don't think 'twitter-like'. Think 'decentralized'.
>> >>
>> >> On November 6, 2022 5:51:40 PM EST, Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Trying to understand BookWyrm vs StoryGraph vs GoodReads and Twitter
>> vs Mastadon (and beyond), I found this aggregator of alternative
>> recommendations:
>> >>
>> >> https://alternativeto.net/
>> >>
>> >> which doesn't necessarily solve anything, it just makes it obvious how
>> challenging "too many choices" can be...
>> >>
>> >> After a lame attempt to go with Mastadon I decided to abandond
>> Twitter-like things altogether.  I doubt I will be willing to throw
>> GoodReads over for anything else because of the participating base of my
>> own personal/family network there.   I can at least avoid clicking through
>> a GoodReads recommendation to order from Amazon.
>> >>
>> >> https://alternativeto.net/software/bookwyrm/
>> >>
>> >> I haven't begun (tried?) to evaluate AlternativeTo.Net itself...
>> >>
>> >> Is this the tragedy of the "free market" (subset of "commons")?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/4/22 3:00 PM, glen wrote:
>> >> I'd forgotten about this until the release yesterday:
>> >>
>> >> https://joinbookwyrm.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 11/2/22 14:52, Steve Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 11/2/22 9:43 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>> >> Thanks, Glen.
>> >>
>> >> It would be nice if there were a public bibliographic reference url
>> that one could use to name a book that only conveyed the thing in itself.
>> Goodreads was that once, then Amazon bought them.  Ditto for video and
>> audio recordings and other objects of public interest.
>> >>
>> >> I admit to continuing to use Goodreads this way in spite of two
>> problems... the Amazon affiliation/ownership of course, but also the too
>> often spotty reviews...  I don't provide many nor particularly good reviews
>> myself, so I've no room to complain really.
>> >>
>> >> So I suppose I agree with your "public bibliographic reference url"
>> point.   It seems as if Wikipedia is a good candidate but I haven't done
>> the work to understand how new entries are made... are they always required
>> to be made by a citizen of the community who is NOT affiliated with the
>> book (publisher, author, etc)? I find a *lot* of the books I seek in
>> Wikipedia and prefer them for reference when their book-description (and
>> cross links to related works, author, etc) are particularly apt, but that
>> is also spotty.   I use Goodreads mostly to follow what family/friends are
>> reading and what *they* think of their reads.
>> >>
>> >> The trend toward crowd-sourced public-use corpii being acquired by
>> private interests (even public corporations are private interests) is
>> disturbing (FB <-Mapillary, Amazon<-Goodreads)...   Twitter->BoringCo, etc)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Eugenia Cheng has other books and a pile of youtube videos.
>> Interestingly, her primary institutional affiliation is the Art Institute
>> of Chicago, where as resident scientist she teaches math to art students.
>> She has a public reading for kids scheduled in Jersey City this month.  Her
>> definition of category theory is "the mathematics of mathematics" which she
>> expands as "the logical study of the logical study of logical things."
>> >>
>> >> Hasok Chang has a third book, Is Water H2O, which Amazon fails to
>> index on his amazon author page, though it is on amazon at a blistering
>> price in every available format.  I found a pdf on the internets.  It's
>> details the history of working out the chemical identity of water. Two
>> themes are that 1) the consensus answers to scientific questions often
>> change in anticipation of the arrival of corroboration, 2) there are often
>> multiple acceptable answers to scientific questions.  These are possibly
>> consequences of being a realisitic realist.
>> >>
>> >> Interesting set of recursions...  we CS types tend to love our
>> arbitrary-depth recursion, but the special cases like double-negatives, and
>> Rummy's unkown unknowns and now Chang's logical logicologoy of logics and
>> realistic realists are ... *special*?  While some may prefer "turtles all
>> the way down" sometimes just a few turtles deep suffices?
>> >>
>> >> - Steve
>> >>
>> >> PS... couldn't help hearing/reading "Cheech&Chong" on the first
>> reading of this thread.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- rec --
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 9:57 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com><mailto:
>> gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     There. I fixed that for you. 8^D
>> >>
>> >>     On 11/1/22 19:36, Roger Critchlow wrote:
>> >>     > Interesting visit with my old boss/friend today, he mentioned
>> some books of interest, and while looking for them I discovered yet another
>> book.
>> >>     >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-joy-of-abstraction-an-exploration-of-math-category-theory-and-life-eugenia-cheng/18557720?ean=9781108477222
>> >>
>> >>     > Exploration-Category-Theory/dp/1108477224>
>> >>     > Eugenia Cheng, The Joy of Abstraction: An Exploration of Math,
>> Category Theory, and Life, published October 2022.
>> >>     >
>> >>     > A presentation of category theory that keeps the underlying
>> algebra basic.
>> >>     >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/inventing-temperature-measurement-and-scientific-progress-hasok-chang/9513488?ean=9780195337389
>> >>
>> >>     > Hasok Chang, Inventing Temperature: Measurement and Scientific
>> Progress
>> >>     >
>> >>     > An itemized history of temperature and all the wrong turns taken
>> along the way, more detail than even the author cares to read again.
>> Poetic justice to examine the operation of the pragmatist's ratchet and
>> pawl over the centuries as it rescues workable definitions of temperature
>> from thermal confusion.
>> >>     >
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://bookshop.org/p/books/realism-for-realistic-people-a-new-pragmatist-philosophy-of-science-hasok-chang/18368583?ean=9781108470384
>> >>
>> >>     > Hasok Chang, Realism for Realistic People: A New Pragmatist
>> Philosophy of Science, available on kindle on November 30, 2022.
>> >>     >
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