[FRIAM] truth-preserving math

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 16:13:23 EDT 2022


3 is {0, {0}, {0, {0}}} according to one approach to a using sets to form
numbers that satisfy the Peano axioms.  In that approach 0 and the empty
set are identical.



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On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 2:02 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to have
> more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math sense)
> 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the
> absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and
> keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in the
> real world .  Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if certain
> metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains kind of quantum
> mechanics??
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from
>> nothing
>> https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/
>>
>> It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the
>> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is the
>> same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean studying
>> one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics really translate?
>>
>> Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.
>>
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