[FRIAM] truth-preserving math

Gillian Densmore gil.densmore at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 16:16:05 EDT 2022


Thanks franks ^_^

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 2:13 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> 3 is {0, {0}, {0, {0}}} according to one approach to a using sets to form
> numbers that satisfy the Peano axioms.  In that approach 0 and the empty
> set are identical.
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> On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 2:02 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to
>> have more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math sense)
>> 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the
>> absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and
>> keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in the
>> real world .  Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if certain
>> metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains kind of quantum
>> mechanics??
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from
>>> nothing
>>> https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/
>>>
>>> It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the
>>> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is the
>>> same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean studying
>>> one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics really translate?
>>>
>>> Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.
>>>
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