[FRIAM] truth-preserving math

[Steve Smith]

On 9/18/22 8:00 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote:
> Even without the math, I think the main point is that of field vs 
> particle. We talk a lot about networks. But you can imagine a smooth 
> blob of goo (maybe like Silly Putty or pizza dough) being stretched 
> and kneaded such that some parts are hard-ish clumps and other parts 
> thin or splitting. That's what I'm thinking when I think about when a 
> positron and electron pop out from the fields.

I appreciate this formulation.   I find myself thinking more in terms of 
"concentrated loci" in a high-dimensional field when I otherwise would 
think of "network" of atoms (or simples)... the "schwinger effect" 
article provided a good overview of this conception in an energy/mass 
field...  I'm (re)reading it now before "church" with St. Stephen of the 
Complexity Babble at Sopapilla factory...  maybe a margarita to smooth 
out the wave-particle distinctions...

it's loci all the way down...

>
> On 9/17/22 13:01, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>> I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to 
>> have more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math 
>> sense) 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the 
>> absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and 
>> keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in 
>> the real world .  Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if 
>> certain metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains 
>> kind of quantum mechanics??
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <gepropella at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is 
>> created from nothing
>> https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/ 
>> <https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/>
>>
>>     It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the 
>> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is 
>> the same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean 
>> studying one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics 
>> really translate?
>>
>>     Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.
>
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