[FRIAM] truth-preserving math

[Gillian Densmore]

Loci or Loki? :P

On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:21 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

>
> On 9/18/22 8:00 AM, glen∉ℂ wrote:
> > Even without the math, I think the main point is that of field vs
> > particle. We talk a lot about networks. But you can imagine a smooth
> > blob of goo (maybe like Silly Putty or pizza dough) being stretched
> > and kneaded such that some parts are hard-ish clumps and other parts
> > thin or splitting. That's what I'm thinking when I think about when a
> > positron and electron pop out from the fields.
>
> I appreciate this formulation.   I find myself thinking more in terms of
> "concentrated loci" in a high-dimensional field when I otherwise would
> think of "network" of atoms (or simples)... the "schwinger effect"
> article provided a good overview of this conception in an energy/mass
> field...  I'm (re)reading it now before "church" with St. Stephen of the
> Complexity Babble at Sopapilla factory...  maybe a margarita to smooth
> out the wave-particle distinctions...
>
> it's loci all the way down...
>
> >
> > On 9/17/22 13:01, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> >> I don't know nearly enough mind bending high levels abstract maths to
> >> have more than tons of questions. I thought information (in the math
> >> sense) 'just' meant 3 of something and you might know of what but the
> >> absolute value of that 3 is the piece of info your starting with, and
> >> keep from being mangled when working backwords to what that 3 is in
> >> the real world .  Or is this morein the spooky physics sense where if
> >> certain metals are made super duper cold you can levitetate trains
> >> kind of quantum mechanics??
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 11:00 AM glen∉ℂ <gepropella at gmail.com
> >> <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is
> >> created from nothing
> >> https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/
> >> <https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/something-from-nothing/>
> >>
> >>     It seems like this is another example where the arrogance of the
> >> abstraction reigns. Because the math relating holes and electrons is
> >> the same (?) as that relating electrons and positrons, does it mean
> >> studying one gives us insight into the other? Does the metaphysics
> >> really translate?
> >>
> >>     Arrogant or not, it's super effing cool.
> >
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