[FRIAM] Biospheres

[Steve Smith]

rambling free-association hath no bounds:

     Synergia Ranch is just a hop-skip-stumble from Bonanza Creek where 
Trump-impersonator extra-ordinaire Alec Balwin shot somebody with an 
antique pistol that was "supposed to be" unloaded or blanked.

The litigation continues as right-wingers (or gun nuts if there is a 
difference that makes a difference?) howl to "lock him up" while howling 
that nobody-nowhere should anytime-anywhere be prosecuted or even looked 
at askance at for "popping a cap" in anyone in the "wrong-place/wrong-time"

<ramble>

On 3/1/24 2:03 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
>
> SG... so succinct with sufficient but not excess tangents, I bow to you!
>
> And then I tangent again.  Your reference to Bannon's "help" with 
> Biosphere I (aka earth/gaia/mother-earth) reminds me to offer up:
>
>     American Dharma <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8804284/>
>
> a documentary by Errol Flynn who is one of Bannon's heroes as a 
> film-maker.  Bannon's adulation of Flynn gave Flynn great access to 
> expose Bannon for what he is in a larger but not specifically snarky 
> way than most Bannon hit-pieces.   Bannon pretty much shows all of his 
> own colors in his own unprompted words in the film... Kinda like Trump 
> at every one of his rallys, but with (slightly) less stakes.
>
>
> On 3/1/24 1:30 PM, Stephen Guerin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
>>
>>     Biosphere 2 near Tuscon was a similar, even more extreme
>>     experiment to create a self-sustaining ecosystem. The experiment
>>     was considered a failure and the whole center belongs now to the
>>     University of Arizona.
>>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2
>>
>>
>> The creators of Biosphere II are from Santa Fe and still live here on 
>> Synergia Ranch <https://synergiaranch.com/>.  I am in awe of what 
>> their "Theater of All Possibilities" pulled off in the 60s through 
>> the 90s and even today as a creative collective.  I highly recommend 
>> the documentary Spaceship Earth 
>> (https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/spaceship-earth) to give a more 
>> sympathetic background compared to how they were crucified by the 
>> press and later "screwed" by Steve Bannon brought in by Ed Bass to 
>> make it more commercial.
>>
>> Note the great Howard Odum's point on the Wikipedia you linked:
>>
>>     " There was controversy when the public learned that the project
>>     had allowed an injured member to leave and return, carrying new
>>     material inside. The team claimed the only new supplies brought
>>     in were plastic bags, but others accused them of bringing food
>>     and other items. More criticism was raised when it was learned
>>     that, likewise, the project injected oxygen in January 1993 to
>>     make up for a failure in the balance of the system that resulted
>>     in the amount of oxygen steadily declining.^[56]
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-56>  Some
>>     thought that these criticisms ignored that Biosphere 2 was an
>>     experiment where the unexpected would occur, adding to knowledge
>>     of how complex ecologies develop and interact, not a
>>     demonstration where everything was known in advance.^[57]
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-57> H. T.
>>     Odum <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_T._Odum> noted: "The
>>     management process during 1992–1993 using data to develop theory,
>>     test it with simulation, and apply corrective actions was in the
>>     best scientific tradition. Yet some journalists crucified the
>>     management in the public press, treating the project as if it was
>>     an Olympic contest to see how much could be done without opening
>>     the doors".^[58]
>>     <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2#cite_note-58>"
>>
>>
>> That all said, I understand the larger context in which you ask the 
>> question and the difficulty of creating a self-sustaining ecosystem 
>> (and social system). BTW, I think we learned as much about social 
>> systems as ecosystems with Biosphere II to help us with Biosphere I 
>> with all the Steve Bannon's running around :-)
>>
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