[FRIAM] death by ubiquity

Roger Critchlow rec at elf.org
Thu Mar 28 18:21:41 EDT 2024


but the "dark side" of the moon is sunlit for half of every month?

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:33 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems like an
> option ... assuming you can negotiate with the aliens that live over there.
> The best thing about coral is you don't have to negotiate for their "land".
> You can just take it and let them die like the stupid little creatures they
> are.
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/asia/south-china-sea-philippines-coral-reef-damage-intl-hnk/index.html
>
> On 3/28/24 10:17, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > It's not really my thing, but I noticed there were several very large
> exhibits at Supercomputing 23 for cooling technology.   Even immersive
> cooling solutions.  I think that could be improved a lot.   Without
> superconducting processors, I don't see how energy use can be dramatically
> reduced though.  For that there will just need to be new generation.
> Could put these near large off short windfarms..
> >
> >
> https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/china-deploys-1400-ton-commercial-underwater-data-center/
> >
> > I suppose there are some that would say gentrification is genocide -- a
> slow coerced displacement.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
> > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM
> > To: friam at redfish.com
> > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
> >
> > Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the
> disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die, move, or
> adapt.
> >
> > In the Gaza kerfuffle, I've heard some describe coerced displacement as
> "genocide". I guess the more reasonble term is ethnic cleansing. The
> settlers seem mostly fine with their ethnic cleansing agenda. But, by
> analogy, how would we describe the coercive adaptation put upon a region by
> a massive water-sucking data center? Biology cleansing? If there really
> were an AI, would they worry about the forced displacement caused by their
> silicon incubators? ... or maybe "incubator" isn't a good word. How about
> "galls": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall Yeah, that might be a good
> analogy. The machines are parasitic. They hijack the iDNA (information
> generators) of the local biology to form galls within which they grow and
> thrive.
> >
> > On 3/28/24 07:51, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> >> It will force innovation on energy-efficient microarchitecture (e.g.
> Groq) and on renewable power generation near data centers.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM
> >> To: friam at redfish.com
> >> Subject: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
> >>
> >>
> >> As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with obsequious
> chatbots, the world burns.
> >>
> >> The industry more damaging to the environment than airlines
> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/
> >>
> >>
> https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/engineers-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool
> >
>
>
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