[FRIAM] death by ubiquity

[Steve Smith]

REC sed:

> but the "dark side" of the moon is sunlit for half of every month?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowpiercer


>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 11:33 AM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Bandwidth might be a problem. But the dark side of the moon seems
>     like an option ... assuming you can negotiate with the aliens that
>     live over there. The best thing about coral is you don't have to
>     negotiate for their "land". You can just take it and let them die
>     like the stupid little creatures they are.
>
>     https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/asia/south-china-sea-philippines-coral-reef-damage-intl-hnk/index.html
>
>     On 3/28/24 10:17, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>     > It's not really my thing, but I noticed there were several very
>     large exhibits at Supercomputing 23 for cooling technology.   Even
>     immersive cooling solutions.  I think that could be improved a
>     lot.   Without superconducting processors, I don't see how energy
>     use can be dramatically reduced though.  For that there will just
>     need to be new generation.   Could put these near large off short
>     windfarms..
>     >
>     >
>     https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/china-deploys-1400-ton-commercial-underwater-data-center/
>     >
>     > I suppose there are some that would say gentrification is
>     genocide -- a slow coerced displacement.
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
>     > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:49 AM
>     > To: friam at redfish.com
>     > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
>     >
>     > Maybe. But way before that happens, it will(has) force(d) the
>     disaffected (people, animals, plants) of any such region to die,
>     move, or adapt.
>     >
>     > In the Gaza kerfuffle, I've heard some describe coerced
>     displacement as "genocide". I guess the more reasonble term is
>     ethnic cleansing. The settlers seem mostly fine with their ethnic
>     cleansing agenda. But, by analogy, how would we describe the
>     coercive adaptation put upon a region by a massive water-sucking
>     data center? Biology cleansing? If there really were an AI, would
>     they worry about the forced displacement caused by their silicon
>     incubators? ... or maybe "incubator" isn't a good word. How about
>     "galls": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gall Yeah, that might be a
>     good analogy. The machines are parasitic. They hijack the iDNA
>     (information generators) of the local biology to form galls within
>     which they grow and thrive.
>     >
>     > On 3/28/24 07:51, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>     >> It will force innovation on energy-efficient microarchitecture
>     (e.g. Groq) and on renewable power generation near data centers.
>     >>
>     >> -----Original Message-----
>     >> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
>     >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:09 AM
>     >> To: friam at redfish.com
>     >> Subject: [FRIAM] death by ubiquity
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> As we frivolously replace meatspace conversation with
>     obsequious chatbots, the world burns.
>     >>
>     >> The industry more damaging to the environment than airlines
>     https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/30/silicon-valley-data-giants-net-zero-sustainability-risk/
>     >>
>     >>
>     https://www.asce.org/publications-and-news/civil-engineering-source/civil-engineering-magazine/issues/magazine-issue/article/2024/03/engineers-often-need-a-lot-of-water-to-keep-data-centers-cool
>     >
>
>
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