[FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

Vladimyr vburach at shaw.ca
Wed Jul 19 18:02:29 EDT 2017


I already use AutoHotKey  Script to run Code in Maple Math and Dump .txt vertex data embedded in Processing 3 code (some Java offshoot)
The autoHotKey assembles the hundreds of images and 3D objects into ordered sets and then runs MovieMaker to produce video .wmv, which you have seen already.

It was my intention to convert the functional routines from Maple  directly into Processing and share that code widely.
But few people other than web artists use Processing and it does not seem able to run on a web site. I guess this is a general problem or short coming.

Processing graphics are fast and surprisingly good, better than I am used to elsewhere.
I will try and write the Processing version of the Maple guts and get it out but it may take sometime and others will have to install
the Processing engine which is free but sort of clunky to set up.

There are a number of issues that all this cross talk introduces such as while Processing does crank out 3D object files readily accepted by 3D printers.
But it handles colors strangely and seems unable to mix these objects with solid primitives during object creation. A task probably better suited to CAD packages.

If this is done you will probably by amazed at all the useless junk that pours out at the far end. Like my undergrads trying to build a toboggan out of concrete.

One issue I see is that the more removed the operator the less incentive he will have to connect his actions to the distant outcome.
There was a profound moment in my memory when you and Nick , I think, dabbled with misinterpretation vs premature registration...
I noticed that from the video I had a choice to imagine a squiggly line, a worm, a leaf or a set of leaves with a flower if I waited a bit longer. I thought of the process
as a series of unfolding Emergence events passing by very quickly and soon forgotten when the last was accepted.

Perhaps we jump through Metaphoric fiery rings till we think we understand. 
Thank-you again for the suggestions.
I worry a bit about keeping this process as easy and transparent as possible, avoiding  Python or Anaconda's.
inSilico Ecology as an idea has startling possibilities. Energy flow will make that possible I think. But just where do I start...Hmmm


-----Original Message-----
From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ?
Sent: July-19-17 11:17 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] the role of metaphor in scientific thought

If the forum expresses irritation, then we can take it offline.  Otherwise, I will treat them like I like to be treated ... voyeurism can be a good thing. 8^)

Rather than (or in addition to) using pseudo-random number generators, do something like:

1) https://api.random.org/guidelines,
2) use other numbers, like the number of hits you get when you google something (e.g. a source code function),
3) invoke a script engine and allow me to place some scripted functions on a website that you import and execute,
4) pass along some subset of the functions you're using, perhaps in pseudo-code, so that we can modify or suggest different ones that you then incorporate.

Of these (3) is the most interesting to me.  But even (4) would be cool.

On 07/18/2017 05:19 PM, Vladimyr wrote:
> I intentionally left openings in the code that should allow independent operators even AI to attempt to generate some structures to prove that very few shapes are recognizable.
> [...]
> If you have any more suggestions on removing myself from the process please advise. Perhaps directly so as not to clutter the forum.
>  I will soon attempt to use random number generators.
> [...]

☣ glen

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