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[Frank Wimberly]

Lack of object constancy after childhood is definitely considered to be
symptomatic.  If you don't believe something exists unless you are
experiencing it, including yourself, you will have a difficult time.

Here is a link:

http://borderlinepersonality.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/06/lack-of-object.html

I believe this is psychoanalytic orthodoxy.

Frank

Frank Wimberly
Phone (505) 670-9918

On Nov 2, 2017 12:01 PM, "gⅼеɳ ☣" <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am (or thought I was) familiar with the idea.  But it should be clear
> that the wikipedia entry is GUILTY of the exact problem I'm trying to point
> out.  So, it's not only not helpful, but perpetuates the problem.  Witness:
>
> "Object constancy, similar to Jean Piaget's object permanence, describes
> the phase when the child understands that the mother has a separate
> identity and is truly a separate individual."
>
> In other words, object constancy is precisely the false conclusion.
> Perhaps there's other literature that talks specifically about how the
> *fiction* of object constancy affects/retards future development?  If you
> know of that literature, perhaps you could point to it?  Or, better yet,
> explain it in your own words ... which I enjoy more and find much more
> useful. 8^)
>
> On 11/02/2017 10:32 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > You guys might be interested in the Psychoanalytic concept of object
> constancy.
> >
> > See
> > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mahler
> >
> > Many philosophical discussions are explained by psychoanalysts in terms
> of object constancy.  And the self is also an object Psychoanalytic
> speaking.  The old Chestnut about whether a tree falling in a forest makes
> a sound is an example.
>
> --
> ☣ gⅼеɳ
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