[FRIAM] [WedTech] Bug hive remover needed

Nick Thompson nickthompson at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 3 23:57:39 EST 2018


Steve –

 

I don’t know how much eastern experience applies here, but some slight additions to your note.

 

1.        Bee hives DO winter over as hives.  I think you meant to say that but I wasn’t sure.  Bees do sometimes get into houses in the East. 

2.       WASPS do not winter over as hives, as you suggest.  But, for instance, the fall nests of Polistes wasps produce dozens, perhaps hundreds of reproductive which collect in crevices in houses, whence they emerge, confused, sleepy, and not altogether in a good mood, if you heat the walls up in winter.  So Gill might be confusing their old nests with “hives”  and the emerging reproductive as an organized group, rather than as a bunch of cranky individuals. 

3.       “…building on nests outside the house “ suggests to me another paper wasp which builds round basket ball sized nests with a single entrance.  Unlike Polistes colonies, which are small, and laid back, these guys can be real mean.  Our only strategy with them was to keep destroying the nests when they are small and the nest not developed the diversification essential to produce large numbers of stinging workers.   

4.       We both assumed that Gil was using the term “bug” loosely.  The only swarming bugs I know are ladybugs, which, like the wasps, can emerge from the heated walls of winter houses in astounding numbers.  But they don’t sting.  

5.       There is a women up at St. Johns known as the “bug lady”  She studied with a reknown entymologist at Michigan and might, for a few bucks, help out.  Or for free.  She will actually know what she is talking about, unlike … um … me.  

 

Nicholas S. Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology

Clark University

 <http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/

 

From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 8:30 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Bug hive remover needed

 

Gil -

I don't know what kind of "hive bugs" you are talking about.   The most obvious in our environs would be wasps, followed by bees, with ants and termites burrowing.  I'm fairly confident that *all* wasps/hornets build new nests each spring.   

I know the main contact for honeybee relocation in NNM if it happens you have a swarm of honeybees that settled at your house this summer.   Any "hive" you have (most likely paper or mud) would long since have been vacated (only the queen survives through the winter in hibernation) and will not be re-used next year... you can simply remove it and destroy it or put it somewhere auspicious and call it art.

- Steve

 

 

On 1/3/18 5:14 PM, cody dooderson wrote:

I think it depends on the type of bug. Queen honey bees are fairly valuable but red ants are not.  




Cody Smith

 

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:

Other than a bugy house (pun intended): 

 

I really do need help with recomendations for pros to help relocate nest or hive bugs keep building on place outside.


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