[FRIAM] Diesel OK?

Steven A Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Sat Mar 31 11:36:29 EDT 2018


If you can score this concept model off the showroom, it sounds pretty
cool, if a bit gimmicky (solar panel on the roof?)
    https://auto.howstuffworks.com/diesel-hybrid3.htm
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> The X3 is a nice car, but then there’s..
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> https://cleantechnica.com/2018/01/06/tesla-tech-conquers-great-small-towing-semi-trucks-wiping-windshields/
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly
> <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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> *Date: *Friday, March 30, 2018 at 5:51 PM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
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> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Diesel OK?
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> If you want acceleration, get an X3 with the six-cylinder turbo
> engine.  At this point I think all BMWs have turbocharged engines,
> diesel and not.
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> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 5:32 PM Owen Densmore
> <owen at backspaces.net<mailto:owen at backspaces.net>> wrote:
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>     Wait! Your sports car (Porsche) would have a high compression
>     ratio, right??
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>     My bias is away from diesel at the moment, simply because it costs
>     more and some of the benefits are no longer with us. No longer
>     cheaper etc. But they do have more pick-up, and apparently better
>     maintenance.
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>     Keep the cards and letters coming tho, very useful!
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>        -- Owen
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>     On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Eric Smith
>     <desmith at santafe.edu<mailto:desmith at santafe.edu>> wrote:
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>         Thank you Frank and Steve, both,
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>         > On Mar 31, 2018, at 3:33 AM, Frank Wimberly
>         <wimberly3 at gmail.com<mailto:wimberly3 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>         > My petrol car has a 12.2 to 1 compression ratio and sparkplugs.
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>         Boy, I was way off.  Thank you.
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>         Eric
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>         > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018, 9:53 AM Steven A Smith
>         <sasmyth at swcp.com<mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>         > I just read up a little on Selective Catalytic Reduction
>         which seems to
>         > characterize Bruce's Urea-injection system.
>         >
>         >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_catalytic_reduction
>         >
>         > Which is similar but different to Air Injection:
>         >
>         >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection
>         >
>         > both in various combinations with two-way and three-way
>         catalytic
>         > converters:
>         >
>         >     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalytic_converter
>         >
>         >
>         > I remember in the late 70s, early 80s when we imagined that
>         an ICE
>         > engine that could efficiently convert atmospheric oxygen and the
>         > hydrocarbons of fossil fuels into pure CO2 and H20 would
>         solve any and
>         > all "pollution" problems.   Folks like Bill McKibbin were
>         already trying
>         > to alert us to Greenhouse Gas problems, but I know *I*
>         wasn't listening
>         > past my TechnoPhilic hearing aids.
>         >
>         > As for Ed's apocryphal "peeing in the gas tank", urine being
>         primarily
>         > H20...  it seems highly unlikely that the <2% additive of
>         Urea or Uric
>         > Acid would be any benefit in emissions, though there have
>         been systems
>         > that injected water into the air-fuel charge which I believe
>         (under very
>         > limited conditions) increased power/efficiency by small
>         margins, but I
>         > think that was a result of cooling the incoming mixture
>         effectively
>         > increasing the difference between input/output temps
>         resulting in
>         > similar effects of increasing compression ration?
>         >
>         >
>         > - Steve
>         >
>         > > I seem to remember this as being associated with higher
>         nitrogen oxide
>         > emissions than richer-burning.  Has that long since been fixed?
>         > > I believe that NO emissions are associated with the lean
>         burn of
>         > > Petrol... I'm not sure why Diesel is less apt to that...
>         perhaps the
>         > > longer chain hydrocarbons, the higher compressions (a
>         different
>         > > pointin the pressure/volume/temp space?) or the more
>         "natural" or
>         > > complete combustion conditions without a spark?
>         >
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