[FRIAM] enough sleep?

Gary Schiltz gary at naturesvisualarts.com
Tue Apr 9 14:30:33 EDT 2019


I go back and forth between being a stark raving mad free-marketeer and
being a stark raving mad socialist. The former says that we need to keep
our noses to the grindstone in order to compete (or in the past, to merely
survive). The latter says that those filthy rich bastards keep the noses of
the working class to the grindstone not so much to get more work out of
them, but to keep them afraid, and therefore keep them in line and grateful
for their small nibble of the pie. When I worked for small startups
(BiosGroup, Bioreason, NCGR), I always felt that there was a legitimate
need to keep my nose well whetted on that grindstone, and that when there
were worries and rumors about potential layoffs, that they were for
legitimate concerns about survival. On the other hand, in my fifteen years
at big companies (EDS, Perot Systems),while similar signals did serve the
genuine need to get rid of a few slackers, they mainly served to make sure
nobody complained about poor management. Nowadays, as automation
increasingly takes on the objective need for hard work, societies are going
to face some very tough decisions about how to distribute the wealth
produced by these automatons (assuming the automatons are willing to
continue sharing). IMHO :-)

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 10:47 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> The nature of our economy rewards people that keep their nose to the
> grindstone.   Locally it is a good optimization, but globally you work till
> you drop.   Maybe you go on a Viking River Cruise or something while you
> are reaching completion.    I have a lot of sleep momentum and require lots
> of coffee to get to the point where I assent to the internally posed
> question of "Why the f*ck would I want to do that?"
>
> On 4/9/19, 9:33 AM, "Friam on behalf of glen∈ℂ" <
> friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     If you’re not sleeping at work, you should be fired
>
> https://theconversation.com/if-youre-not-sleeping-at-work-you-should-be-fired-114006
>
>     I'm skeptical of the argument that "we're" not getting enough sleep.
> Just this morning, after getting plenty of good sleep last night (helped
> along by some Peruvian chaufa), my exercise performance this morning was
> terrible ... whereas my "regular" night's sleep of 5 hours produced
> excellent performance over the last month or so.  Stories aside, by what
> measure(s) do we judge health, recovery, alertness, engagedness, etc ...
> the bait presented at the beginning of this article?
>
>     Again, just for me, a nap destroys my productivity.  But aperiodic
> *distractions* seem to improve my productivity.  When I finish the first
> draft of a report, for example, it's good to go for a bike ride before the
> 2nd iteration. Taking a nap just makes me sleepy and want to watch TV.
> However, when I am well (over?) rested like today, I tend to wax
> philosophical and am attracted by Deep Thoughts™. So, I can see why the
> gist of the article would match someone's intuition.  But intuition is not
> reliable.  The data I keep on, e.g., my weight lifting regimen seems to
> show that I perform better when I'm consistent, regardless of the amount of
> sleep I get.  When I get the same amount each and every night, then I
> perform better.  I don't keep data on my fugues into Deep Thoughts™, though
> ... maybe I should. 8^)
>
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