[FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction
Prof David West
profwest at fastmail.fm
Fri Jan 11 10:33:33 EST 2019
Nick,
The definition of persuade begins with "cause (someone) ..." which
implies some degree or 'change' e.g. from a current mindset/belief to a
modification of same. Within "groups" you might find persuasion, but
across "groups" there is none;, "confirmation bias" and all that.
davew
On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Nick Thompson wrote:
> Geez, Dave. I might have put it the other way. People are persuasive
> as hell; they just aren’t communicating.>
> But I haven’t been following the thread.
>
> Get back here! It’s Friday and we need you.
>
> Nick
>
> Nicholas S. Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
> Clark University
> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Prof
> David West *Sent:* Friday, January 11, 2019 7:56 AM *To:*
> friam at redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Motives - Was Abduction>
> "Persuasive" is a term the reviewer used, Adams restricts his analysis
> to "communication." The two terms are worlds apart. I would claim that
> no one in politics is persuasive, and given the polarity that exists
> in political discourse, it is impossible for anyone to be persuasive.>
> davew
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019, at 6:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> < As to the ethics dimension; you quoted one of Adam's reviewers:
>> *"But, when I was in school, we always discussed ethical
>> responsibility of the persuader and Adams does not. As long as Trump
>> was persuasive he was going to win and that’s what matters."* >>>
>> He’s not persuasive. His arguments are ridiculous and appeal to the
>> stupid and ignorant. See Alfredo’s post.>>
>> Marcus
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