[FRIAM] narcissism

[Frank Wimberly]

But it's useful, to me, ...

Well, that matters.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:57 PM uǝlƃ ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4/29/20 12:51 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/DlopY4DfFV4
>
> This one didn't seem to say anything about the 2 phenotypes. So it
> (obviously) can't help distinguish them, which means it can't help unify
> them. If one doesn't even recognize there could be a difference, then one
> can't unify them.
>
> On 4/29/20 1:30 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > https://youtu.be/Ihu3k_j3KQk
>
> Yeomans refers to "thin-skinned" narcissists, which I interpret to be what
> others call "vulnerable". And it's good that he made at least that
> distinction. But everything else he said, other authors have described as
> grandiose phenotype. So, he validates other authors' laments that the
> majority of work has ignored the vulnerable type.
>
> > https://youtu.be/xoRuzpsLzTU
>
> I watched this one yesterday or the day before. But again, it focuses on
> the grandiose type and doesn't help distinguish or [re]unify the 2 types.
> What might be a Freudian slip, though, is that the unification of the 2
> types, or the refusal to admit there might be 2 types, might be a
> "regression to simplicity". >8^D
>
> > https://youtu.be/OwVL-X_TRDo
>
> Here, Yeomans refers to what I started this thread with, he thinks
> narcissists suffer a lot, enslaved in an isolation. But the research I've
> seen in journals indicate that grandiose narcissists *don't* suffer much,
> but the vulnerable narcissists *do*. This is directly inferrable from the
> *alternative* model of NPD in the DSM 5. And it's reflected to some extent
> in pretty much any paper you get from a google scholar search.
>
> So, to sum up, none of these bolster your position. But it's useful, to
> me, because now I'm thinking that the Wink 1991 paper really was a
> significant inflection point in the study of narcissism. Thanks for sending
> them along. I'll youtube-reciprocate and say that this guy seems pretty
> credible:
>
> Wilmington:
> https://www.wilmu.edu/directory/behavioralscience/lori-vien.aspx
> YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_0vyFTKk1Nlodo4QsiQkw
>
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