[FRIAM] Curmudgeons Unite!

[Frank Wimberly]

Steve,

Did you ever see Ed Bradley's interview of Dylan.  The latter is about
three years older than I am. I was writing significant code until a few
years ago and I can state theorems and definitions that I learned 50+ years
ago. I might even be able to prove some of the theorems but...

https://youtu.be/m_wAZ02JUtM

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 11:43 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> Jon-
>
> I would find it fascinating (if possibly/assuredly misleading) for someone
> well-schooled in Go Strategy/Tactics and history to establish a running
> commentary on the specific moves afoot in our (national/global) political
> (socioeconomic) go-board.
>
> My last foray into Go beyond trying to learn to play casually 10 years ago
> was during the 1983 CA conference in Los Alamos when there was a lot of
> discussion of using CA to construct Chess/Checkers/Go playing programs.
>
> I don't remember (nor can find) any papers directly referencing the
> subject at that time, and when I tried to follow up on the Go aspect
> (in1983), I got sidetracked into Gosper's proto-Hashlife memoization CA
> conception... which promised to support "seeding" such game-players with
> middle-and end-game "gambits".   I don't even know if that is the right
> term and bashing through GoogleSearches only leads me further astray down a
> multiscale foam of white-rabbit warrens.
>
> Some of the more interesting vestibules in the maze of rabbit-warrens:
>
>    - Gambit Project: software tools for game theory
>    <http://www.gambit-project.org/>
>    - Hashlife, memoization and entropy
>    <https://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/bib/ss/nonstd/index.htm>
>    - AlphaGo <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y>
>    - Go as Cellular Automata - xah lee
>    <http://xahlee.info/cmaci/ca/go_cellular_automata.html>
>    - Hexaganol Go - xah lee
>    <http://xahlee.info/math/go_board_variations.html>
>    - ...
>
> I am left wondering if some of the recent FriAM maunderings are not
> relevant.    First level Go strategy involves the tension between
> "connection and separation" and literal vs virtual or potential versions of
> both which rhymes slantly (I hear?) with the "cohesion/coupling"
> discussion, as well as the "epiphenomenon" discussion and the more
> background/constant consideration of "emergence".
>
> I'm way over my TL;DR limit as usual, but I will tag on that my own
> throwdown in CA is a (never realized) foray into an (k-1)^2 decomposition
> of space (vs k-d/quad-oct-tree partitioning)..   the key to the concept is
> to maximize redundancy and coverage of pattern space vs space-efficient
> decomposition.  I believe it has a play in the generalization of Guerin's
> dual-field stuff, especially in the context of the patch-turtle duality of
> Netlogo.    But I'm too busy wandering through the self-similar foamy
> white-rabbit warrens to do more than make short stepwise motion in that
> direction every few years.     Which triggers another diversion into Glen's
> "diachronic" vs "episodic"...   trying to understand if there is a
> yet-more-general model of which this distinction is a (useful but)
> degenerate form, explaining my (and other's) propensity for
> rabbit-hole-diving, and (possibly) the long-term or large-scale utility of
> same?
>
> mumble/ramble
>
> - Steve
> On 8/19/20 11:07 PM, jon zingale wrote:
>
> The current administration enjoys making *big moves* both in rhetoric
> and action, all establishment without fortification. The 20th-century
> weiqi master, Go Seigen, is known for a remarkable strategy that may
> find an analog here. Go Seigen would often cede the biggest moves to his
> opponent while playing in such a way as to introduce *imperfections of
> shape* in the other's unsettled groups. Slowly, he would build thickness
> around the board with which to harass, overwhelm, and ultimately defeat
> his opponent.
>
>
>
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