[FRIAM] vaccine

[David Eric Smith]

Well, if that’s “the key point”, then we should all get up on high horses and enjoy blaming everyone who ever gets angry at the loss of anything that was good, or useful, or valuable.  After all, any one thing wasn’t everything, and therefore it wasn’t diverse.  It was just itself.  It was just some good, or useful, thing that we put a lot of work into building because it was all we could do to produce one of it.  And now some saboteurs have injured or destroyed it, and we don’t have any one of it at all.

I cannot recreate everything in life in its best form out of my own self.  I am not that big.  I depend on things in the world and in society that take decades or centuries of work by thousands or tens of thousands of people to assemble, and that have no replacements when they are gone.

> On Aug 24, 2020, at 8:36 AM, glen ep ropella <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There's the key point, right? That diversity fosters openness, facilitating the entrance, maintenance, and extinction of all sorts of wild-type rationale. Writing in stone an authority figure like the CDC, or Fauci, or [who|what]ever dampens that openness ... stunts our ability to reason. I spend a lot of energy denigrating the denial of expertise. But appeal to authority is arguably worse.
> 
> If Redfield or Azar suddenly announced a vaccine, the process is open enough that you could email the clinical trial PIs and find out whether you might trust it. Normalizing/unifying trust into any single app, org, or person will always be a mistake.
> 
> On August 23, 2020 4:42:42 PM CDT, David Eric Smith <desmith at santafe.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> if Redfield is directing the CDC, and Azar is directing whatever he
>> directs, and a month before Election Day there is a declaration that
>> there is a vaccine available, I would not take it.  In the earlier eras
>> of the CDC — say, when the public health officials of Taiwan came to
>> visit CDC to learn how to design a pandemic response, because it was
>> universally seen as the gold standard world-wide — I would probably
>> have taken it.  I am told, through a friend who Is a working
>> epidemiologist within the agency, that both of them are regarded as
>> trouble, Redfield more through incapability than malice, Azar the more
>> typical trumpish combination of both.
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