[FRIAM] IS: Disgusting Fish Conversation WAS: words for Nick (political-words focused)

[Steve Smith]

Damn!  You NAILED IT Cody...

I think we need to build a fault-tree of this to explicate it and then
begin to elaborate it and analyze the myriad loops (representing
contradictions or mere iterations?)...

Your perspective is VERY progressive in the most conservative way!


On 8/25/20 11:00 AM, cody dooderson wrote:
> Let me see if I am following this thread. 
> It is liberal to eat sushi unless you are in japan where it is
> conservative, unless it's fugu. It's liberal to eat crawfish unless
> they are from the Rio Grande in which case it is very progressive.
> Owning a gun is liberal, unless you are supporting an authoritarian
> government with it. 
> Unbridled mineral extraction is very much liberal action but
> opposed by progressives in favor of a more authoritarian environmental
> policy. 
>
>
>
> Cody Smith
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 9:17 AM uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com
> <mailto:gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Well, personally, I love the bending. My endnote was an attempt to
>     demonstrate a) how the negative-positive freedom limiting rhetoric
>     is supposed to work and b) that it's amenable to ridiculous
>     extremism. That y'all bent it off into a discussion of types of
>     sushi and seafood as a whole further demonstrates how ridiculous
>     the rhetoric is. I.e. I completely disagree with Dave that the
>     Dems (or liberals) do, try, or intend to limit freedom. The whole
>     negative freedom concept is fraught ... maybe the whole concept of
>     freedom (or liberty) is fraught. To me, a better (more useful)
>     dichotomy is deontological vs. consequential ethics. It seems like
>     conservatives lean deontological and liberals lean consequential.
>     But I'm no ethicist.
>
>     To be clear, I regularly eat sushi [⛧]. My 9mm magazine is loaded
>     with hollow points, but only 10 rounds. It's locked up in the
>     closet and I never carry it around with me. Am I liberal or
>     conservative? >8^D
>
>
>     [⛧] Do I *like* sushi? No. But I don't actually like any food
>     except when I'm stoned. I eat whatever is put in front of me. I
>     once felt like I disliked beets more than I disliked, say, steak.
>     So I went on a bender where every time I saw a beet dish on the
>     menu, I ordered it. I still don't like beets. I eat mostly salad.
>     I hate salad. It's messy, hard to get the forkfulls into your
>     mouth, too much/little dressing, yaddayadda. Who cares? Now, the
>     *beer*! That matters.
>
>     On 8/24/20 1:06 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     > Ok guys.  Keep my name out of this fishy thread.
>     >
>     > Geez.  If this ain't the mother of bent threads.  Where is Owen,
>     the Thread
>     > Cop, when we need him? 
>
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