[FRIAM] tactics and strategy - from vFRIAM 6/12 - attention glen

[Frank Wimberly]

Much better.  Most of my family are Confederate descendants.  Some are
progressive liberals, some are committed Christians and Trump supporters.
I tend to avoid the latter.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 4:10 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> Trump made a direct appeal to racists and other people of backward
> sensibilities in this country and it worked.   The challenge is not to
> pacify them, play politics with them, or find a way to forgive them.  The
> challenge is to make it abundantly clear what they are about and isolate
> them.   This may mean deepening the divisions and burning some bridges
> along the way.
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> Clear enough?
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <
> wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Date: *Friday, June 12, 2020 at 2:56 PM
> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] tactics and strategy - from vFRIAM 6/12 -
> attention glen
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>
> That sounds like irony (doh).  What are you actually saying, Marcus?
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> On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 3:54 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
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> Ah yes, the views of the racists and traitorous confederates..
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> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Prof David West <
> profwest at fastmail.fm>
> *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Date: *Friday, June 12, 2020 at 2:47 PM
> *To: *"friam at redfish.com" <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *[FRIAM] tactics and strategy - from vFRIAM 6/12 - attention
> glen
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> context:
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> near the end of vFRIAM, SteveG argued that Science's denigration and
> dismissal of God and religious sensibilities in general was both arrogant
> (on the part of Science) and divisive / counter-productive. In an attempt
> to steelman SteveG's position I generalized the argument and made the
> assertion that this element of the Liberal Democratic strategy to defeat
> Trump was not only counter-productive, but *extremely stupid*. I also
> expanded the scope of SteveG's argument away from simply religion but to
> all the views that might be held by those in Hillary's "basket of
> deplorables."
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> glen wishes to 'discuss' my assertion.
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> How to proceed? from the general to eventual specifics/particulars? who
> goes first?
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> davew
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