[FRIAM] alternative response

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Mon Jun 15 20:59:33 EDT 2020


I am referring to free will as the possibility that choices can be made contrary to the coupled quantum mechanical wave function associated with a human brain or other intelligent agent as entangled with the universe.   The dictionary definition is unhelpful because it connects free will with deterministic systems, and it is easy (with a credit card) to extend a computing system with a true random number generator.   I do think that is a distinction without a difference, and that also casts doubt on the utility of the concept of free will.   If faking it can't be detected, we might as well not talk about a distinction.  Turing test, etc.


On 6/15/20, 5:45 PM, "Friam on behalf of glen∉ℂ" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

    Well, you only said you could write an ABM. You didn't mention "conventionally call a serial computer". Given where you work, you might have been hypothesizing that you could write an ABM on some other kind of computer. But whatever, I already agreed that it wouldn't. I'll repeat that what's more interesting is whether it would *look* like it did ... whether it could *simulate* free will, which is the topic at hand.

    Again, I'm not talking about a different concept. I'm talking about this: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freewill


    On 6/15/20 5:40 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > Anyone that says an ABM can display Free Will, running on what we conventionally call a serial computer, is certainly talking about a different concept.


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