[FRIAM] alternative response

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Tue Jun 16 00:02:25 EDT 2020


So, I exert my free will if and only I do something that could not be anticipated by any generality?  

Nick 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 9:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] alternative response

`Freedom' from physical laws.

On 6/15/20, 8:34 PM, "Friam on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

    Marcus, 

    Free from WHAT exactly?  What is having free will freedom FROM?  And what is Will that is not free.  Aren't we having an oxymoron problem?  

    n

    Nicholas Thompson
    Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
    Clark University
    ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
    https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
    Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:40 PM
    To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
    Subject: Re: [FRIAM] alternative response

    Anyone that says an ABM can display Free Will, running on what we conventionally call a serial computer, is certainly talking about a different concept.      

    On 6/15/20, 5:35 PM, "Friam on behalf of glen∉ℂ" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

        I agree. I doubt it would display free will, too. But it's an interesting question whether it would or not. It's an even more interesting question whether it would *look* like it exhibited free will, which is the question RussA asked.

        On 6/15/20 3:25 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
        > Ok, I can make an ABM of that.   Surely such an ABM does not display free will.

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