[FRIAM] alternative response

[uǝlƃ ☣]

I think you'd be better off if you tossed out the word "pre-determined" entirely. And maybe even "determined". Just don't use those concepts. The problem with those concepts is that they hide a time transient (as well as other scopes ... like a light cone). If you simply stop using that concept and *then* try to ask what you want to ask, I think you'll find a much better formulation of the question.


On 6/16/20 2:58 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Is the question whether it was "pre-determined?" Or is the question whether
> it was predetermined by Charles??   I have a neighbor who passes my study
> window every afternoon at 4pm with his very floppy cocker spaniel.  Is that
> event predetermined by the dog (who begs to go out at 3.30), by Scott (who
> welcomes the distraction), by the clock (which he checks to keep the dog
> honest), or ....
> 
> I know this because I used to set out for coffee every afternoon at that
> time, and we would often meet on my doorstep and walk together a few paces
> down the street.  Because of COVID I don't do that any more.  Did COVID
> determine my change of behavior?  Or did I make a FREE choice.  
> 
> I think the freedom of free will is just an ideological matter.  Each of us
> is supposed to be a master of our behavior and circumstances.  Indeed, in
> some jurisdictions, you can be popped in the loony-bin for not being so.  In
> which case, I think, the loony bin is where we all belong.  Or perhaps are? 
> 
> Anyway, Glen will accuse me of strawmanning again.  Forgive me.  I have been
> tortured by dualists all my life, and now I am visiting my revengte on all
> of you. 

-- 
☣ uǝlƃ