[FRIAM] alternative response
thompnickson2 at gmail.com
thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 19:03:22 EDT 2020
Hmmmm! "because of"?
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Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 4:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] alternative response
I think you'd be better off if you tossed out the word "pre-determined" entirely. And maybe even "determined". Just don't use those concepts. The problem with those concepts is that they hide a time transient (as well as other scopes ... like a light cone). If you simply stop using that concept and *then* try to ask what you want to ask, I think you'll find a much better formulation of the question.
On 6/16/20 2:58 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> Is the question whether it was "pre-determined?" Or is the question whether
> it was predetermined by Charles?? I have a neighbor who passes my study
> window every afternoon at 4pm with his very floppy cocker spaniel. Is
> that event predetermined by the dog (who begs to go out at 3.30), by
> Scott (who welcomes the distraction), by the clock (which he checks to
> keep the dog honest), or ....
>
> I know this because I used to set out for coffee every afternoon at
> that time, and we would often meet on my doorstep and walk together a
> few paces down the street. Because of COVID I don't do that any more.
> Did COVID determine my change of behavior? Or did I make a FREE choice.
>
> I think the freedom of free will is just an ideological matter. Each
> of us is supposed to be a master of our behavior and circumstances.
> Indeed, in some jurisdictions, you can be popped in the loony-bin for
> not being so. In which case, I think, the loony bin is where we all belong. Or perhaps are?
>
> Anyway, Glen will accuse me of strawmanning again. Forgive me. I
> have been tortured by dualists all my life, and now I am visiting my
> revengte on all of you.
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