[FRIAM] Virus Cases

Gary Schiltz gary at naturesvisualarts.com
Sat Jun 27 15:20:19 EDT 2020


My question is about the knowledge, and state of the science/technology.
That is to say, what is the state of knowledge in the medical science
community to develop such tests? Would we be a month away? A year? More?

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:11 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gary,
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> Don’t look to the US for any inspiration on testing.  There are still
> parts where getting a test is not easy.
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
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> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Gary Schiltz
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:45 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases
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> I wonder what the prospects are for Covid19 testing "entirely at home" in
> the near future? I'm thinking something like home pregnancy tests or
> glucose monitoring tests, where you don't have to send a sample away. Such
> a beast would be especially helpful in the third world, many parts of which
> don't have any kind of postal service.
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> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
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> I was asking me the same as Nick. We experience a global pandemic and I am
> living in a big city of 3.8 million inhabitants and I don't know anybody
> who really has it. I have asked our local newspaper salesman who meets a
> lot of people and he says he knows people who have it, but only have little
> or no symptoms. Our cleaning lady (which helps us cleaning our apartment)
> is from Chile, she said her whole family in Santiago has the virus because
> they all live together in very small rooms where the virus can easily
> spread. Both of her grandparents have died from it. In Berlin we have
> overall only 8000 infected people, which is low compared to the overall
> population. Luckily.
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> The biggest recent SARSCoV2 outbreak in Germany was at a meat factory: low
> 10°C temperatures increase droplet formation and water condensation, no
> distance between workers and poor working conditions all contributed to the
> outbreak
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> https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53177628
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> In America as a whole the situation looks really concerning. Chris Hayes
> argues on MSNBC that the government has failed and Donald Trump should
> resign as president
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> https://youtu.be/oB4N27evVwY
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> -J.
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
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> Date: 6/27/20 18:41 (GMT+01:00)
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> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
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> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson
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> >I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they *know
> anybody* who has had the disease.
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> One of my high-school classmates  (a few weeks older than I) died of
> Covid-19 on April 30.
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> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> David,
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> nthompson at clarku.edu works just fine or ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com .
>
> I am really, REALLY  sorry but I don't think we should meet.  I just told
> my "pod" that I think that, with the rising cases in neighboring states,
> Santa Fe has started to get more dangerous again, and that we should we
> should be even more careful than we have been. (Rural Western Massachusetts
> got a lot of cases from "vacationing" New Yorkers in March.)   With talk of
> a vaccine by the beginning of next year, it just seems stupid to take any
> risks whatsoever.
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> It's not that long.  In the meantime, let's continue to interact
> electronically.  We could do our own zoom session.  You will point out how
> "notional" the hazard is, and I will have to admit that I actually have no
> first-hand experience with the disease, what-so-ever.  I don't even know
> anybody, personally, who has told me that they *know anybody* who has had
> the disease.  It is still, for me, a media event.  A cultural meme.  Pray
> God it remains that way.
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> So let's plan to meet "on the other side.".
>
> You take care!
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>
> Clark University
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> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Prof David West
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:10 AM
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson
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> Nick,
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> Your Earthlink email address (the only other one I have) bounced. I am in
> Santa Fe for a couple of days, until July 2.
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> davew
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