[FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

Thu Aug 19 21:17:48 EDT 2021

EricS
>
> Fascist Quorum Sensing

When 'Q' emerged in the right wing popular attention, I did make a brief
connection with "Quorum" in the sense you reference  it, though more
specifically as Bee Swarm/Nest trigger/choice.   Having once been a
holder of a DOE 'Q' clearance, the very idea that that level/style of
clearance would give him the kind of insider information attributed to
him/her/them was absurd.   Some of the other clearances, *maybe*, but
not obviously the 'Q'.

The news today with the lame-O-bomber wannabe kicked off another round
of DHS/domestic-terror-watch warnings that another "quorum" is trying to
rise up.   The (liberal) news media is giving lip-service to not
"amplifying" his signal, etc.

Seems like something similar  (but not responsibly scientific) about how
the Taliban was able to flip the whole country almost overnight is afoot.  

- SteveS

>
> (For those who don’t do this for a living, the reference is to the
> phenomenon in bacteria like Anthrax (B. anthracis), which will
> multiply inside a victim for many generations with no real chemical
> activity besides a normal parasitic metabolism, but will secrete
> signaling chemicals.  When those chemicals hit a threshold
> concentration because the population has multiplied enough, which the
> bacteria all know because they all have the same genome, they switch
> state, turn on the chemical attack machinery, and dissolve the victim
> on a timescale far too short for any inflammatory or immune response
> to do much about them.)
>
> Google does not show anyone as having used it yet, even though it is a
> no-brainer.
>
> The idea being to say something productive about the abruptness of it
> all.  
>
> From Gingrich and Norquist up through end-2020, the right thought its
> best strategy was to do the usual dissembling and dogwhistling, just
> at higher intensity.  Something has switched and they think this
> —specifically — is the time to make a run for it and to parade the
> fascism instead.  
>
> While the strategic-games crowd (and military people etc.) will say
> they have long written about shifting modes, the idea that there can
> be an unplanned component at the popular level akin to quorum sensing
> might have something to be said of it.
>
> Even on the question of whether trump mattered, I can see a sort of
> SFI angle on it, with the idea of “slow timescale variables” that
> Jessica Flack makes central to the rubric that for a while (perhaps
> still) she was calling “construction dynamics”.  The idea that a sort
> of order-parameter stuck thing can smooth out fluctuations and make an
> inference problem easier and more stable, or a transition in domains
> more likely.  Here the fast variables would have been the Lindsay
> Graham characters, who flutter like day-traders among all possible
> positions, trying to guess from minute to minute what is safe.  Those
> guys would not have put Steven Miller’s face on TV, because they would
> have judged that he was too ugly to use.
>
> Enter trump, whose 2024 motto can be “The Worse, The Better”, who said
> “I can make ugly work.”  But it didn’t change the system state in a
> few months, or even in a year.  The flutterers took years of
> reassurance, and a couple of election cycles, before they switched
> from the lysogenic to the lytic phase.  Without trump as a slow
> variable, would the flutterers have continued to flutter a while
> longer?  Can one say anything about that that has any scientific
> worth, and isn’t just firing off buzzwords?
>
> Eric
>
>
>> On Aug 20, 2021, at 7:53 AM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com
>> <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Eric writes:
>>  
>> “I have wondered whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant
>> in a vaccine.  Just having the antigen leaves room for highly
>> variable responses, because if you don’t manage the inflammatory
>> response that initiates the immune response, you have only a weak
>> control system.  Trump was so awful in so many dimensions that he
>> triggers inflammation in those who would have remained asleep under
>> Clinton.”
>>  
>> The mask protests like this one..
>>  
>> https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn
>> <https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/08/19/mask-wars-unrest-flores-pkg-dlt-vpx.cnn>
>>  
>> ..strike me as something that M. Night Shyamalan could not even
>> invent.   Say the guy at 1:40.
>> I should be thinking of these folks as my fellow citizens?   Really?
>>  
>> Is it just me or is maybe the “inflammation” getting a little out of
>> control?  For example,
>> the other day I was driving down a narrow part of the road in my
>> residential area and pulled off to the side to let a car pass that
>> was coming the other way.   He (white middle-aged man) was not
>> signaling, but as soon as I spent five seconds off the side to let
>> him pass he started screaming at me and waving his fist out the car
>> window.   Apparently I had dared to block his driveway.   Is it
>> really that hard for some people to get through their day?
>>  
>> It increasingly seems to me that maybe there is just all this crazy
>> just below the surface, and all that can be done is to keep the
>> inflammation down.
>>  
>> Marcus
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