[FRIAM] Fallback in barbarism

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The pictures of some cops taking selfies with the mobsters fits the narrative that many cops are sympathetic. https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/washington-dc-election-riots/h_bf082e3fc62f47230f3e22c8d188f80d

I'm skeptical, though. Sicknick died from his injuries, which doesn't fit the narrative. It's a bit like the accusations the PDX cops coordinated more with right wing protest organizers than with antifa or BLM protest organizers. I'm skeptical of those stories, too. In the end, it's most effective to provisionally assume the cops (and everyone else, including the morons with confederate flags) are operating in good faith. But like with your empathy thread, when they get out of line, you can't hesitate to clip it. So the resignations of the chiefs and sergeants-at-arms is the right thing.

Re: one of the articles I included yesterday, the WA 3% called off their occupation of the Olympia Capitol:  https://www.theolympian.com/news/state/washington/article248362845.html
But, to me, that further signals they're *not* just a bunch of yahoos. They're organizing and their intent is suspect.


On 1/8/21 1:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Why did yahoos so easily penetrate the capitol security?   Either the police were incompetent, mis-deployed, or they let this happen.  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of ? glen
> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 10:34 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fallback in barbarism
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> Your exuberant confidence always catches me off guard. I mean, I largely agree with you. But, as usual, my confidence in my own opinion is vanishingly small compared to yours. Anyway, here are some articles that help me doubt my opinion:
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> https://www.propublica.org/article/capitol-rioters-planned-for-weeks-in-plain-sight-the-police-werent-ready#1040996
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> https://www.opb.org/article/2021/01/06/washington-2021-legislative-session/
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> https://pugetsoundanarchists.org/evergreen-state-patriots-new-graphics-and-details/
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> https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2021/01/christian-who-breached-capitol-says-rioters-did-what-they-had-to-do/
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> To boot, your confidence in your opinion that the risk was/is low may be more evidence of below, despite your disagreement re Trump:
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> https://undark.org/2021/01/07/science-trump-grip-white-male-effect/
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> I think we should be conservative and assume the risk is very high, even if I think it's actually low. Dave may be right that these are mostly yahoos. But practice makes perfect. Treat this like an exercise for the future when it may not be yahoos.

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