[FRIAM] it's world logic day!

[Gary Schiltz]

I would have thought that most members of FRIAM, when speaking of logic,
are referring to the mathematical and/or computational concept of
propositional logic, which has little if anything to do with a human
dimension. You know, modus ponens, modus tollens, etc. Logic in that sense
would exist even without the existence of biological beings (e.g. Homo
sapiens) that use it as a part (not the only part) of their thinking
process. But maybe I'm not grokking what y'all are talking about.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 1:55 PM Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, Nick. Thinking logically is just not thinking holistically, it misses
> the whole enchilada, and one of the reasons we're doomed--clumsy, but the
> best I have time to come up with now.
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:24 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Merle,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the objection you have to logic flows from the misunderstanding
>> of what logic is.  If you define logic is thinking that leads to truth,
>> then any thinking that leads to truth is logical, and the project of Logic
>> Studies is the project of finding out what sorts of thinking lead that
>> way.  So, I would re-interpret your objection to be that logic, as we know
>> it, is so constrained as to be dangerous and misleading.  I don’t want us
>> to give up on truth-seeking – as the pragmatists understood truth.  [Glen,
>> I stipulate your objections.]
>>
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>>
>> Nick
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>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>
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>>
>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Merle Lefkoff
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:00 AM
>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>> friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!
>>
>>
>>
>> I find this celebration very disturbing and even dangerous at a time when
>> some are beginning to realize that logic alone is bereft of the complexity
>> of all the ways of being in a more-than-human world.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:32 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Glen,
>>
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>> It’s nice to know that logic is being celebrated.  Still – surprise!—I
>> have a correction.
>>
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>> Logic ... [is] the principles of [right] reasoning,
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>>
>> Funny how, this article, a celebration of logic, buggers the definition
>> of logic, leaving out it’s ethical dimension.  Well, unless one believes
>> that specious or fallacious logic is “logical”, logic is “good” thought,
>> i.e. thought that leads probably to the truth.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nicholas Thompson
>>
>> Emeritus Professor of EthologTy and Psychology
>>
>> Clark University
>>
>> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>>
>> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:48 AM
>> To: FriAM <friam at redfish.com>
>> Subject: [FRIAM] it's world logic day!
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>> https://en.unesco.org/commemorations/worldlogicday
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>> > The ability to think is one of the most defining features of humankind.
>> In different cultures, the definition of humanity is associated with
>> concepts such as consciousness, knowledge and reason. According to the
>> classic western tradition, human beings are defined as “rational” or
>> “logical animals”. Logic, as the investigation on the principles of
>> reasoning, has been studied by many civilizations throughout history and,
>> since its earliest formulations, logic has played an important role in the
>> development of philosophy and the sciences.
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>> >
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>> > Despite its undeniable relevance to the development of knowledge,
>> sciences and technologies, there is little public awareness on the
>> importance of logic. The proclamation of World Logic Day by UNESCO, in
>> association with the International Council for Philosophy and Human
>> Sciences (CIPSH), intends to bring the intellectual history, conceptual
>> significance and practical implications of logic to the attention of
>> interdisciplinary science communities and the broader public.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > A dynamic and global annual celebration of World Logic Day aims at
>> fostering international cooperation, promoting the development of logic, in
>> both research and teaching, supporting the activities of associations,
>> universities and other institutions involved with logic, and enhancing
>> public understanding of logic and its implications for science, technology
>> and innovation. Furthermore, the celebration of World Logic Day can also
>> contribute to the promotion of a culture of peace, dialogue and mutual
>> understanding, based on the advancement of education and science.
>>
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