[FRIAM] incitement

[Marcus Daniels]

Litigation from states, expulsion from most social media, personal bankruptcy, together with his age and health may be enough to take a future run off the table.   All together preferably, but even any of them.  Impeachment is a nice-to-have, but it seems improbable to me because the Republicans have just gone mad.

From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:14 AM
To: uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ <gepropella at gmail.com>; The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] incitement


So textually analyze "will no one rid me of this turbulent priest<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_no_one_rid_me_of_this_turbulent_priest%3F>"!

Your last sentiment if widely held is scary indeed. Acquitting is being absolved of the crime.  As others have pointed out what would a president have to do to be found guilty if not to want to and attempt to encourage the overthrowing of the results of a legally held, fair and square democratic election result? With Trump gone(?) the sore<https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/19/opinion/trump-celebrity-successors.html> still exists and we need to deter other wannabe autocrats from a repeat performance. It's not a laughing matter.

Robert
On 1/19/21 9:02 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:

How Trump’s language shifted in the weeks leading up to the Capitol riot – 2 linguists explain

https://theconversation.com/how-trumps-language-shifted-in-the-weeks-leading-up-to-the-capitol-riot-2-linguists-explain-152483



There's plenty to doubt, there. But it follows along our previous conversations about ambiguity (both [in]formal) and binding. Personally, I don't believe Trump purposefully incited the riot. He'd have to be a literal genius to *purposefully* use language like this with the intent/objectives attributed to him. What does it mean, though, to *accidentally* incite a riot? Where does _mens rea_ fall for incitement? It seems most plausible that Trump is simply pre-adapted to riot-incitement by his years of practiced marketing bullsh¡t and the trendly positive feedback he gets from that marketing bullsh¡t. He did incite a *rally*. He loves when his groupies get together to fawn over him. But did he incite them to riot? I don't think so. Laughable as the idea is, were I a Senator, I'd probably vote to acquit.


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