[FRIAM] The epiphenomenality relation
Stephen Guerin
stephen.guerin at simtable.com
Mon Nov 29 16:08:08 EST 2021
Nick,
Whenever we discussed your Natural Design Perspective over the last 15
years, I've tried to form a bridge toward Complexity, Self-Organization,
Least Action, and related ideas. From your Natural Design Wikipedia entry
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_design>:
Natural design is design-without-a-designer, in the same sense that natural
selection is selection-without-a-selector. Design is a term we use to refer
to a matching of form and function, and we can recognize the presence of
design independently of the cause of that design
*Can we say a hurricane is a naturally designed form that matches the
function of dissipating a temperature gradient?* In this case mass density
and angular momentum break symmetry and become structured as a
"design". As you know, I've asked this question countless times, but can't
recall your answer. I am trying to open the door to design that doesn't
presuppose natural and sexual selection as the assumed mechanism of
biological design.
On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:39 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been wondering all week why none of you have sent me insults about
> the text below. It appears that ONE of the reasons may be that I never
> sent it to you. Well, now is your chance. From the natural design
> perspective, design is a property of things, not of minds that make
> things. The perspective asserts that a thing is experienced as designed
> when it is one of an array of things existing in an array of environments,
> such that there is a systematic relation between things and environments.
> Against the background of such systematic relations, it becomes possible
> to say that this particular thing is well-designed for this particular
> environment. Over the years, we have used many different examples to
> illustrate this principle.
>
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