[FRIAM] The epiphenomenality relation

[Stephen Guerin]

Nick,

Whenever we discussed your Natural Design Perspective over the last 15
years, I've tried to form a bridge toward Complexity, Self-Organization,
Least Action, and related ideas. From your Natural Design Wikipedia entry
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_design>:

Natural design is design-without-a-designer, in the same sense that natural
selection is selection-without-a-selector. Design is a term we use to refer
to a matching of form and function, and we can recognize the presence of
design independently of the cause of that design


*Can we say a hurricane is a naturally designed form that matches the
function of dissipating a temperature gradient?* In this case mass density
and angular momentum break symmetry and become structured as a
"design".  As you know, I've asked this question countless times, but can't
recall your answer. I am trying to open the door to design that doesn't
presuppose natural and sexual selection as the assumed mechanism of
biological design.

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:39 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have been wondering all week why none of you have sent me insults about
> the text below.  It appears that ONE of the reasons may be that I never
> sent it to you.  Well, now is your chance. From the natural design
> perspective, design is a property of things, not of minds that make
> things.  The perspective asserts that a thing is experienced as designed
> when it is one of an array of things existing in an array of environments,
> such that there is a systematic relation between things and environments.
> Against the background  of such systematic relations, it becomes possible
> to say that this particular thing is well-designed for this particular
> environment.  Over the years, we have used many different examples to
> illustrate this principle.
>
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