[FRIAM] self and next*
glen
gepropella at gmail.com
Mon Apr 4 12:59:34 EDT 2022
I wish I knew of a way to navigate metanarratives methodically:
In Hungary, Viktor Orbán Remakes an Election to His Liking
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-election.html
On the one hand, I'm sympathetic with the idea, say, that one needs a state issued ID in order to vote in person. On the other hand, I recognize that getting, keeping, and having the extra time off or cognitive free cycles to remember to bring it to the voting booth are all important factors. Overhead is expensive, especially in a society that doesn't compensate you for the time you spend on overhead tasks. (My company's overhead is relatively very small. But it's still about %20. Behemoths like universities runs much higher like 50% or more. How can 50% of your budget be "overhead"? It boggles. But there's also the inane slogans like "Safety is Job #1!" Pffft. No. The mission is job #1. Safety supports that.)
But like the Federalist Society's takeover of SCOTUS, gerrymandering, and the false equivalence between election and voter fraud, I have no way of explicitly punctuating cross-trophic rhetorical moves. I can scream Composition/Division Fallacy till I'm blue in the face. But it's largely lost. (The other day, 3 pints in, I was trying to broaden a discussant's understanding of confirmation bias by comparing it to survivorship bias, where he accused me of "gish gallop": https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop. [sigh])
Anyway, I'd appreciate any opinions on whether Orbán's election was "free but not fair."
On 3/30/22 09:47, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I missed mention in this dialog where the collapse of the USSR is figured in the analysis.
> For example, if the conflict with Russia escalated and there was a full-scale nuclear exchange, and the United States collapsed, then it would be reasonable to talk about Idahoans becoming their own unique state. They'd just have to persuade anyone they were shipping potatoes to that they were a country. I would say some Idahoans are barely recognizable as Westerners. I'd probably recognize the values of a Kyiv resident as more like mine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of glen
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:19 AM
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: [FRIAM] self and next*
>
> On the heels of Marcus' challenge re: next* and EricS' discussion of iterative inter-subjectivity, Scott's tolerance to Thorfinnsson's insane comment triggered me:
>
> Who Gets Self-Determination?
> https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/who-gets-self-determination?s=r
>
> "A people" is Yet Another convenient fiction only grounded through repetition and entrainment, a purely social, but no "less real", construct. Being in that triggered state, this article carried a little extra intensity:
>
> The end is nigh for Northern Ireland as we know it – and unionists can blame themselves https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/30/the-end-northern-ireland-unionists-blame-themselves-dup-sinn-fein
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