[FRIAM] self-care

Tue Jul 12 15:23:14 EDT 2022

Well, hypocrisy is not an argument.   Our reach exceeds our grasp, is all.
C

On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 12:53 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's a bit bizarre about Sarbajit's accusation of hypocrisy is the
> overwhelming diversity of US Government components. It would make sense to
> accuse a single agency, say, the FDA of something like hypocrisy. But even
> there, we have different regimes ran by different people and there's a
> turnover of individuals within the affiliated organizations.
>
> I suppose this is the heart of the "stare decisis" arguments against
> willy-nilly overturning "precedent" and cross administration changes like
> Trump rejecting the nuclear deal with Iran. It reminds me of the Citizens
> United ruling and the false equivalence between national debt/deficit and
> household debt.
>
> Can a materially open thing like a (somewhat) representative government be
> *hypocritical*? What is hypocrisy, really?
>
>
> On 7/3/22 18:23, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
> > Sarbajit,
> >
> > Could you post materials on the Guttmacher dispute and the science
> behind it?
> >
> > I am guessing that this is all new to us.
> >
> > As to hypocrisy, the term is only appropriate to a unified system,
> usually a person.  But perhaps the metaphor works the other way around.
> Perhaps people are just badly integrated systems, hence sin in all its
> form, deception, hypocrisy, loving thy neighbor too well, and all of that!
> So instead of saying that governments are sort of like people, we might say
> that people are sort of like governments.
> >
> > N
> >
> > Nick Thompson
> >
> > ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com <mailto:ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com>
> >
> > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ <
> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/>
> >
> > *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> > *Sent:* Saturday, July 2, 2022 2:57 AM
> > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] self-care
> >
> > The hypocrisy of the US govts is amazing.
> >
> > For decades they have been desperately promoting pill based self induced
> abortions as "safe" abortions in India and Latin America through their
> puppets like the Guttmacher Institiute and by using misrepresentations and
> outright lies.
> >
> > These pills are highly toxic / carcinogenic and Guttmacher was caught
> red handed by us for using fake accounts on Wikipedia to shape the "self
> induced abortion" article to depict it as safe and as an at-home remedy. We
> got Guttmacher delisted in India for about a year, but they made their way
> back through the USAID RMNCHA programs used to bribe foreign government
> servants to shape policy
> >
> > Sarbajit
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:52 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com <mailto:
> gepropella at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     In the aftermath of the activist Justices overturning RvW, this
> popped up in my feed:
> >
> >     How to Give Yourself an Abortion
> >     https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion <
> https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion>
> >
> >     I remain torn on the issue of self-care. And lots of energy was
> added to my oscillators with the whole "horse dewormer" thing for COVID-19.
> (Yes, I'm poking fun both at the people who bought veterinary ivermectin
> and the people who used the disgusting sneer "horse dewormer".) To boot,
> this post came up this morning about a homeopathic packet sent home with
> the patient after surgery:
> https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11 <
> https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11>.
> (Placebo is a thing, despite Blumner's write-off.)
> >
> >     Nick is fond of asking people whether they take multivitamins or
> not. And while it's true most experts claim that *healthy* people just pee
> them out. *Who* amongst us actually qualifies as "healthy"? What does
> "health" even mean? That's not an idle or rhetorical question. Am I
> "healthy", despite the excruciating chronic pain in my shoulders, neck, and
> lower back? Despite my sporadic debilitating migraines? Despite my now
> abated follicular lymphoma? Sure, I *seem* healthy because I can do
> pull-ups, shovel dirt, drink 5 pints without a hangover, and maintain a
> full-time job with a bit of time for hobbies. But what you see from the
> outside doesn't reflect what I feel on the inside, which is like a sick
> puppy where the slightest bad event would topple me into the "disabled"
> category. "Healthy" is at best a misinformation concept, at worst a
> malinformation concept:
> https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf
> >     <
> https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf
> >
> >
> >     Sneer all you want at the new-age descendant reading self-help
> books, cutting out magazine ads for their "vision board", or
> self-administering veterinary de-fetus pills, but there's something
> important, here. Fad diets, bottled water, alcoholism or pregnancy as an
> indicator for moral failure, etc. all point at that thing, whatever that
> thing is.
> >
> >     In that context, self-administered abortion is legit.
>
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