[FRIAM] Baruch Spinoza

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 11 08:37:09 EDT 2022


Steve,

Spinoza has ancestors in common with Spanish (and New Mexican) people named
Espinoza or Espinosa.  Will Durant said he had the clearest knowledge of
God of any philosopher. I suppose that was knowledge of the third kind.

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On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 5:53 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> As long as I am scattergunning this list with the rock-salt of my random
> studies, I have to toss Spinoza over the transom as well.
>
> Being too lazy (manically preoccupied) to thread my way back through the
> existing discussions on duality on this list, I will simply ask if anyone
> here has already thrown down on Spinoza's take on duality here, or even
> better, is willing to now:
>
> From Spinoza's Ethics
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza_book)#Part_II:_Of_the_Nature_&_Origin_of_the_Mind>:
>
>
> *Further, there is no difference between contemplating an idea and
> thinking that it is true, and there is no **freedom of the will
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will>** at all. Sensory perception,
> which Spinoza calls "knowledge of the first kind", is entirely inaccurate,
> since it reflects how our own bodies work more than how things really are.
> We can also have a kind of accurate knowledge called "knowledge of the
> second kind", or "reason". This encompasses knowledge of the features
> common to all things, and includes principles of physics and geometry. We
> can also have "knowledge of the third kind", or "**intuitive knowledge
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition>**". This is a sort of knowledge
> that, somehow, relates particular things to the nature of God.*
>
> In Spinoza's taxonomy, it would seem that DaveW's "dark-matter/energy"
> attribution is what Spinoza calls "knowledge of the third kind".
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