[FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?
Sarbajit Roy
sroy.mb at gmail.com
Mon Mar 7 21:39:52 EST 2022
The point is that the US should strictly keep its nose within its own
boundaries and not export its ideologies globally, eg. as in the Reagan
doctrine.
For instance, if the India Govt wants to directly buy defensive S-400
missiles from Russia in preference to US systems, what gives the USA the
right to sanction either the Indian Govt or Indian companies who are
totally unconnected to the deal ?
How dare US Senators like Ted Cruz and Jeanne Shaheen publicly insult
India's neutral votes on the Ukraine issue in the UN by implying India does
not support democracy ? What business is it of theirs ?
Or for that matter, why does an Assistant Secretary of State Donald Lu
depict India as a running dog of US Interests by publicly stating that
every US armament sold to India is one less for the US to deploy itself
against China. Doesn't he know that India is a founding member of BRICS
along with China and Russia ?
https://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/us-policy-towards-india030222
On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:34 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
> There are articles like this one
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> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine
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> One might deduce from this that Anglo-Saxon imperialist media doesn’t
> really care about countries having non-Anglo-Saxon civilian populations
> destroyed by weapons of mass destruction. I would say there has been a
> cloud of rage over 9/11 that only recently started to clear. Anything in
> that cloud, like the entire middle east, could be considered hell. Or
> like Las Vegas, what happens in Mosul stays in Mosul. There were some
> reporters that would cover it, but overall, there were few in the U.S. that
> really cared what happened. (And really, who **ever** thinks about
> Russia? Who is this nut-job?) There was violence that was “needed” (most
> recently with ISIS) and we were by in large readily willing to not look at
> it. Obama remarked on it with remarkable detachment. The Russians took
> advantage of this. Yes, it is ugly that there is this contrast, but that
> doesn’t mean they should get away with it this time. There were voices
> calling for intervention at the time.
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> One might also say that morphing of Anglo-Saxon imperialism toward a
> principled liberal democracy is fake and insincere. That seems to be
> Putin’s position. But assuming this is all true, and all there is
> asserting power, then there is nothing left to talk about. Send out the
> aircraft carriers.
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2022 2:08 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?
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> Both authors of the article are affiliated to the notoriously
> imperialistic Chatham House think tank.
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:19 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, for the wartime profiteers amongst us:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/07/tech-community-rallied-ukraine-cyber-defence-eu-nato
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> "Cyber" was already everywhere, nauseously so. But now it'll be even worse.
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> On 3/7/22 09:45, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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> > It’s great for the military industrial complex in the U.S. and in
> Europe. Close to home in New Mexico: B61 revision 12s, yes, those will
> be in demand.
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> glen
> When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.
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