[FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 7 20:23:55 EST 2022


The state if the Internet in Russia:

https://qz.com/2138398/the-russian-internet-is-a-casualty-of-the-war-with-ukraine/

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On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, 4:04 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> There are articles like this one
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> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/02/civilised-european-look-like-us-racist-coverage-ukraine
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> One might deduce from this that Anglo-Saxon imperialist media doesn’t
> really care about countries having non-Anglo-Saxon civilian populations
> destroyed by weapons of mass destruction.   I would say there has been a
> cloud of rage over 9/11 that only recently started to clear.   Anything in
> that cloud, like the entire middle east, could be considered hell.   Or
> like Las Vegas, what happens in Mosul stays in Mosul.  There were some
> reporters that would cover it, but overall, there were few in the U.S. that
> really cared what happened.  (And really, who **ever** thinks about
> Russia?  Who is this nut-job?)  There was violence that was “needed” (most
> recently with ISIS) and we were by in large readily willing to not look at
> it.   Obama remarked on it with remarkable detachment.   The Russians took
> advantage of this.  Yes, it is ugly that there is this contrast, but that
> doesn’t mean they should get away with it this time.   There were voices
> calling for intervention at the time.
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> One might also say that morphing of Anglo-Saxon imperialism toward a
> principled liberal democracy is fake and insincere.  That seems to be
> Putin’s position.   But assuming this is all true, and all there is
> asserting power, then there is nothing left to talk about.   Send out the
> aircraft carriers.
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Sarbajit Roy
> *Sent:* Monday, March 7, 2022 2:08 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] what's the view from Europe?
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> Both authors of the article are affiliated to the notoriously
> imperialistic Chatham House think tank.
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> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 11:19 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, for the wartime profiteers amongst us:
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> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/07/tech-community-rallied-ukraine-cyber-defence-eu-nato
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> "Cyber" was already everywhere, nauseously so. But now it'll be even worse.
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> On 3/7/22 09:45, Marcus Daniels wrote:
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> > It’s great for the military industrial complex in the U.S. and in
> Europe.   Close to home in New Mexico:   B61 revision 12s, yes, those will
> be in demand.
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> glen
> When elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers.
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