[FRIAM] To repeat is rational, but to wander is transcendent

Eric Charles eric.phillip.charles at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 16:04:23 EDT 2022


That is a bizarre distinction, that can only be maintained within some sort
of odd, contextless discussion. If you tell me the number of atoms of a
particular substance that you have smushed within a given space, we can,
with reasonable accuracy, tell you the density, and hence the "state of
matter". When we change the quantity of matter within that space, we can
also calculate the expected change in temperature.

For example, when there are 25 moles of propane in the tank under my grill,
the state of matter is liquid.

<echarles at american.edu>


On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 8:35 PM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> *From the web:*
>
> *Intensive properties do not depend on the quantity of matter*. Examples
> include density, state of matter, and temperature. Extensive properties do
> depend on sample size. Examples include volume, mass, and size.Dec 4, 2019
>
> How is any of those variables emergent.
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> On Fri, Mar 25, 2022, 5:26 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jon, I am sitting outside at a Ohori‘s. Chris tells me that there’s
>> some sort of giant fork cook up that’s going to happen around six or maybe
>> seven and then we all should come. Not the kind of thing I could talk Kenny
>> into I don’t think but it might be fun to bring the kid to. They all smell
>> is much more bearable when there’s an actual smell of food mixed up in the
>> afternoon is very mild and pleasant. I wanted to take a few moments to try
>> and get my mind around the intensive extensive distinction I now have a way
>> to remember which is which which is the intensive properties are
>> independent of the size of the system. So at least I have that little bit
>> of grip.  Song the number of altruists in a group is an intensive sorry
>> sorry extensive property of the group it changes with the size of the
>> system according to Siri, the functional organization of the group the
>> degree of functional organization if you will varies nonlinear early with
>> the number of altruist  but it does vary with the number vouchers and so
>> would be also an extensive property? No according to Winsett poop so far as
>> I’m concerned is the only one who makes any sense on the subject an
>> emergent property contrast with an aggregate property so the number of
>> altruists in the group is an aggregate property because it is insensitive
>> to the arrangement of the parts when you get a property which is sensitive
>> to the arrangement of the parts then you get an emergent property. So I’m
>> trying to think of those two distinctions are orthogonal related to One
>> another. I will send this message along now that’s where I am at the
>> moment. I will send a message along now so you get the info about the pork.
>> Since I have no computer I will probably keep dictating these messages to
>> you which you are entirely entitled to ignore but give me a medium in which
>> to Think. Nick
>>
>> Sent from my Dumb Phone
>>
>> On Mar 24, 2022, at 4:16 PM, Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-wandering-domain_theorem
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQkZVPU2txg&ab_channel=TheAbelPrize
>>
>> Been thinking about fractals and analytic continuations for recursive
>> algorithms, lately. I would love to read some thoughts.
>>
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