[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.

Gillian Densmore gil.densmore at gmail.com
Sat Nov 5 13:12:50 EDT 2022 

lol pretty much


On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 11:02 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

>
> On 11/5/22 10:50 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>
> I'll leave this here then:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20160112000701/http://www.timecube.com/
> and no it doesn't make sense.
>
> Geeze Gil!  What are you trying to do to me?  That lead to some serious
> Klein-Bottle Navel-Gazing!
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> Good one Carl/Ken ...
>>
>> And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks to
>> *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals for everyday
>> measures and calculations).
>>
>> As  a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals I could tune in
>> on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith Wave Magnet" they let me keep in
>> my bedroom... I can still see the dull orange glow seeping out of the back
>> of the set when the tubes were cooking...   now-adays when I fire it up I
>> also smell the dust burning off.   Deeply visceral... "beep, beep,
>> beep..."  WWV-Fort Collins.
>>
>> I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my life... it has just
>> been an opportunity to stir the pot and be contrarian about something I
>> know to be arbitrarily arbitrary really.   Same for metric/english/archaic
>> measures.  All those things exist for good reason even if they persist for
>> bad ones.
>> On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
>>
>> OK, then.  Ken Nordine on Time.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022.
>>> steeeve
>>> It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about with the clock a ruining
>>> winter is dumb.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:26 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Honestly, I just don't get why it's such a big deal. Sure, it's
>>>> obsolete. And maybe it kills a few people, raises cortisol, etc. But there
>>>> are so many other things that affect our (sleep) cycles soooooo much more,
>>>> like obesity, alcoholism, wage slavery, TikTok fomo, ... on and on. Passing
>>>> such a law feels like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe
>>>> complaining about how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular"
>>>> ... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads your way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>>> >> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but yes I agree I despise the
>>>> clock change bull sh**** It takes effect next year unless Turtle neck had
>>>> his usual tantrum.
>>>> >
>>>> >  From the linked article:
>>>> >
>>>> >     /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed bipartisan
>>>> legislation to abolish clock changes and make daylight saving time
>>>> permanent, beginning in 2023. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida,
>>>> introduced////the Sunshine Protection Act <
>>>> https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>//, and
>>>> Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the co-sponsors./
>>>> >
>>>> >     /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine Protection Act so
>>>> Oregonians aren’t springing back & forth each year in a silly exercise that
>>>> hurts everybody’s health & our economy," Wyden tweeted March 15. "Time now
>>>> for the House to act."/
>>>> >
>>>> >     /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the bill, which is
>>>> now stalled and scheduled to expire in December./
>>>> >
>>>> >     /Let the debate resume in March 2023./
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock changes... and I
>>>> thought the Sunshine Act <
>>>> https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>would put
>>>> an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the "wrong side" with a
>>>> year-round DST timesqew.   Looks like it is going to fail despite
>>>> bipartisan support in the Senate (unsurprising that Florida, closest to the
>>>> equator, effected least, would be the one to sponsor/promote it?)...
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA) have tried to take things
>>>> into their own hands independent of the rest of the country?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>     I suppose I could live with the sqew and just change the idioms
>>>> from 12 noon and 12 midnight to 11 noon and 11 midnight and call it a
>>>> day/year/life.   Seems like it would just make more sense to sqew the 8-5
>>>> (or 9-4) for bankers) an hour earlier instead, but what is the point of
>>>> having a state/federal/global government if it isn't going to decide for
>>>> you how we index time?
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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