[FRIAM] Obligatory (and gratuitous?) screed about time changes.
Steve Smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Sat Nov 5 13:02:09 EDT 2022
On 11/5/22 10:50 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
> I'll leave this here then:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20160112000701/http://www.timecube.com/
> and no it doesn't make sense.
Geeze Gil! What are you trying to do to me? That lead to some
serious Klein-Bottle Navel-Gazing!
>
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
> Good one Carl/Ken ...
>
> And don't even get me started on converting calendars and clocks
> to *metric* (y'all know how much I prefer fractions over decimals
> for everyday measures and calculations).
>
> As a child, WWV was one of the very few constant signals I could
> tune in on my parent's antique (even then) "Zenith Wave Magnet"
> they let me keep in my bedroom... I can still see the dull orange
> glow seeping out of the back of the set when the tubes were
> cooking... now-adays when I fire it up I also smell the dust
> burning off. Deeply visceral... "beep, beep, beep..." WWV-Fort
> Collins.
>
> I haven't cared "much" about DST in any part of my life... it has
> just been an opportunity to stir the pot and be contrarian about
> something I know to be arbitrarily arbitrary really. Same for
> metric/english/archaic measures. All those things exist for good
> reason even if they persist for bad ones.
>
> On 11/4/22 10:45 PM, Carl Tollander wrote:
>> OK, then. Ken Nordine on Time.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVYpCdY4Y_0
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:33 PM Gillian Densmore
>> <gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunshine_Protection_Act#:~:text=The%20bill%20received%20bipartisan%20support,consent%20on%20March%2015%2C%202022.
>> steeeve
>> It's a BFD to me because of GP. mucking about with the clock
>> a ruining winter is dumb.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:26 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Honestly, I just don't get why it's such a big deal.
>> Sure, it's obsolete. And maybe it kills a few people,
>> raises cortisol, etc. But there are so many other things
>> that affect our (sleep) cycles soooooo much more, like
>> obesity, alcoholism, wage slavery, TikTok fomo, ... on
>> and on. Passing such a law feels like rearranging the
>> deck chairs on the Titanic. Or maybe complaining about
>> how a reporter discussing Putin mispronounces "nukular"
>> ... an odd thing to complain about while the ICBM heads
>> your way.
>>
>>
>> On 11/4/22 15:17, Steve Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > On 11/4/22 4:14 PM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>> >> Didn't the sunshine act already pass? but yes I agree
>> I despise the clock change bull sh**** It takes effect
>> next year unless Turtle neck had his usual tantrum.
>> >
>> > From the linked article:
>> >
>> > /Earlier this year, the U.S. Senate unanimously
>> passed bipartisan legislation to abolish clock changes
>> and make daylight saving time permanent, beginning in
>> 2023. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Florida, introduced////the
>> Sunshine Protection Act
>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>//,
>> and Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, was among the co-sponsors./
>> >
>> > /"Glad the Senate has passed the Sunshine
>> Protection Act so Oregonians aren’t springing back &
>> forth each year in a silly exercise that hurts
>> everybody’s health & our economy," Wyden tweeted March
>> 15. "Time now for the House to act."/
>> >
>> > /In June 2022, the U.S. House failed to pass the
>> bill, which is now stalled and scheduled to expire in
>> December./
>> >
>> > /Let the debate resume in March 2023./
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:10 PM Steve Smith
>> <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> as we all know I'm no fan of semi-annual clock
>> changes... and I thought the Sunshine Act
>> <https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/623>would
>> put an end to that nonsense even if did fall on the
>> "wrong side" with a year-round DST timesqew. Looks like
>> it is going to fail despite bipartisan support in the
>> Senate (unsurprising that Florida, closest to the
>> equator, effected least, would be the one to
>> sponsor/promote it?)...
>> >>
>> >> Oregon (in coordination with CA/WA) have tried to
>> take things into their own hands independent of the rest
>> of the country?
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/2022/11/03/oregon-daylight-saving-time-november-march/69613463007/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I suppose I could live with the sqew and just
>> change the idioms from 12 noon and 12 midnight to 11 noon
>> and 11 midnight and call it a day/year/life. Seems like
>> it would just make more sense to sqew the 8-5 (or 9-4)
>> for bankers) an hour earlier instead, but what is the
>> point of having a state/federal/global government if it
>> isn't going to decide for you how we index time?
>> >>
>>
>>
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