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Fri Oct 14 17:45:32 EDT 2022

Merle -

THE Ralph Abraham 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(mathematician)>?  Or the 
OTHER Ralph Abraham 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Abraham_(politician)>?  Or Yet 
Another... ?

The Trialogues 
<https://www.sheldrake.org/videos/trialogues-at-the-edge-of-the-millennium> 
comes to mind...  I didn't realize how young McKenna was when he passed 
just a few years later.  I still can't get past most of Sheldrake's 
hyperbolic-woo-pseudoscientific framing, and do wonder at how Abraham 
sorts all that out internally.   It isn't surprising to find a pure 
Maths guy engaged in very mystical thinking, no fundamental 
contradictions required I don't think.

I don't think I've ever met Ralph and I could never quite suss out how 
much influence he had directly (certainly indirectly?) on 
Shaw/Farmer/Packard/Crutchfield's "Chaos Cabal"...   Does anyone know 
how to find Julia Landau's strange documentary tangenting "Strange 
Attractors <https://vimeo.com/129239092>"? Gleick's book 
<https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.4822680> was the first time 
I realized that Doyne and Norm came from Silver City, and then I 
discovered that my sister with to Kindergarten with Norm's brother 
Vance...   Rob used to hang out at SFx from time to time and his brother 
Chris would drop through and talk about his Haptek-sponsored 
"chatterbot"/avatar/PeoplePutty work: 
https://aidreams.co.uk/forum/haptek/chris-shaw-talk-at-chatbots-3-2/ 
which was pretty advanced, considering what we are getting excited about 
with deepfakes/AI-art these days.   I knew Haptek when it formed 
originally to develop haptic hardware interfaces for VR a decade earlier...

Regarding your original opening question.   I was a little late to the 
Jan6 livestream and was reminded of how much being in *perfect* sync 
with realtime events isn't that important, especially if I can ignore 
the fact that anyone in-sync is 30 minutes ahead of me....  like TiVO, I 
forget that by being behind, I can fast-forward through the dull-parts 
if I want!

The production quality of the event and the whole series has been 
categorically high, IMO.  To the extent this is really about *crafting a 
narrative* more than the *investigation* it is labeled, I continue to be 
frustrated.  Not specifically with the Dems or this committee, or 
Congress, etc.. but the way we do collective narrative 
creation/discovery, etc.    Trump's entire "Big Steal" and "Fake News" 
narrative is an example, but then this becomes at best a (semi?) 
righteous counter-narrative.  Makes me reflect (without following) back 
on Glen's references to Strawson's "Against Narrativity" 
<https://lchc.ucsd.edu/mca/Paper/against_narrativity.pdf>.

I particularly liked Beau (of the Fifth Column)'s analysis: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6xUOBheiJU

On 10/14/22 12:56 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
> What did everyone think about this last hearing?  I watched it with 
> Ralph Abraham, whom some of you might know of.  He is visiting me for 
> a week here in Santa Fe and had some interesting perspectives on our 
> present politics.
>
> Of course Ralph and I are also having fun conversations about the 
> ever-present and unknowable electromagnetic field.  Life is good, 
> despite the possibility that I am but a hologram in a random universe 
> heading down a Black Hole.
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 10:56 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Several people, including me, want to watch the hearing.  When I
>     left Dave West and Jon Z were the only ones there.
>
>
>     On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 9:38 AM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>         Hi, Frank. In the midst of packing hysteria, here. 
>         Participation doubtful. Please, if any topic comes up that
>         “needs” me, msg me at 413-404-2942. Thx. N
>
>         Nick Thompson
>
>         ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
>
>         https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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>         *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank
>         Wimberly
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>         Will start at about 9:45 MDT tomorrow (Thursday) morning.
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