[FRIAM] Good lecture on economics and complexity

[steve smith]

Tom -

I listened to this and also to the same (roughly) lecture given at 
Oxford... with a different set of questions, etc. Thanks for opening it 
up here...

This ties in well with the (slim?) chance that AI facilitated modeling 
might actually allow us (modern/tech humanity) to course correct up to 
the horrific inertia in *all* the planetary boundaries being pushed....  
the sociopolitics of it all suggest "probably not" but at least it seems 
to be becoming a *more tractable" technical problem (with outrageous 
changes in industry/infrastructure/first-world-lifestyles).

The earth-system (geosphere, hydrosphere, cryosphere, 
biosphere+noosphere) is undeniably a CAS and it fascinates me that many 
(including myself up until about 20 years ago) wanted to ignore the 
nonlinearities at risk and try to imagine it as the linear system the 
Old Testament promised the Patriarchs it would be for them (go forth and 
multiply/prosper).

Geoff Wests work on Scale is a great complement to Doyne's work 
here....  I am sure several (if not many) here have as good or better 
handle on what SFI and the holonic systems they member with have a 
better handle on this than I.

The JournoSphere as a CAS is also (yet) another coupled/holonic system 
among systems and the current distortions (think 
mainstream/right-wing/alternativeL/alternativeR/???) and oscillations is 
critical (but not yet ready) to help find/develop/transmit coherence 
into the inevitable phase transitions that we are already being sucked 
into...

Our maunderings about consciousness (mostly/only? individual 
organism/individual/LLM?) are part of this, but seem to neglect the 
holonic aspects of various scales of collective-ism.

Mumble,

- Steve

On 8/24/24 4:07 PM, Tom Johnson wrote:
> Friends:
> If you're interested in macroeconomics, building dynamic models, and 
> complexity, I encourage you to spend an hour and a half watching 
> "Making Sense of Chaos: A Better Economics for a Better World," a 
> Santa Fe Institute lecture by my former neighbor Doyne Farmer. This 
> was delivered in Santa Fe a couple weeks ago.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2mqangYo6U 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2mqangYo6U>
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