[FRIAM] Objective Reality Doesn’t Exist. We’ve Known This for a Century. It’s Time to Embrace It and Move On. | by Casper Wilstrup | Machine Consciousness | Medium

[Frank Wimberly]

This is the article I had in mind

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-gen-z-wont-show-their-feet_l_64cd1b52e4b01796c06c0cc4


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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Fri, May 31, 2024, 9:34 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It exists in my mind.  Joke.
>
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2024, 8:59 AM Nicholas Thompson <thompnickson2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> This (see below) got served up to me out of the blue this morning.  The
>> way it's put here, Frank and Bruce might actually agree with it.  Still,
>> it's straight Peirce.  I have no idea who the author is; do any of you?
>>
>> Here's crucial passage.
>>
>> *Our understanding of reality needs a complete overhaul. Rather than
>> viewing it as a fixed, external stage upon which events play out, we should
>> consider it as a dynamic interplay between observers and their
>> environment [*experiences*]. Reality, in this view, doesn’t reside out
>> there, independent of us. Instead, reality is our interactions with the
>> world  [*one another*], shaped and defined by our observations [*
>> experiences*]. Reality is nothing but [*the telos of*] those
>> interactions between subjects.*
>>
>> I had to make those little changes because the author,  like so many
>> aspiring monists, after arguing against observer independence for a hundred
>> words, slips up by implying that the "environment" is anything but
>> something else that we have to agree upon, if we are ever going to get on
>> with life.
>>
>> By the way,  I stipulate that nothing in his argument has ANYTHING to do
>> with quantum mechanics. The argument would be sound even if the idea of a
>> quantum had never been thought.  However, I like the idea of physics as
>> some kind of language of convergent belief.
>>
>> By the way,  In history there seem to have been two ways for people
>> converge on a common experience, charisma and democracy.  In charisma, we
>> pick some idiot (usually a psychopath) and share his or her experience.  In
>> democracy, we find  some way to blend our experiences into a common view.
>> Sometime in the next few months we will decide which way we want to go.
>>  Do we want to assign Trump the job of determining our common reality, or
>> do we want to continue to work it out amongst ourselves through experiment
>> and argument.
>>
>> Weather gorgeous here in the mosquito infested swamp.  Garden thriving.
>> A much better year.
>>
>> Watch that dry line in TX.  It's truly amazing.  Can it really be true
>> that I am the only weather fanatic on a list that is devoted to
>> complexity?   How can that be?
>>
>> NIck
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://medium.com/machine-cognition/objective-reality-doesnt-exist-it-is-time-to-accept-it-and-move-on-7524b494d6af
>>
>> <https://medium.com/machine-cognition/objective-reality-doesnt-exist-it-is-time-to-accept-it-and-move-on-7524b494d6af>
>> Objective Reality Doesn’t Exist: It is Time to Embrace it and Move On
>> <https://medium.com/machine-cognition/objective-reality-doesnt-exist-it-is-time-to-accept-it-and-move-on-7524b494d6af>
>> The shift towards a unified, observer-dependent reality forces us to let
>> go — once and for all — of the idea of objective reality
>> medium.com
>>
>>
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