[FRIAM] Haboob in southern NM / Mexico

steve smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Jun 20 11:21:33 EDT 2024


does the NWS/etc even have an entry in their warning system for "haboob"?

I'm not that clear on the difference from RECs "derecho"...  GPTs 
differentiation wasn't particularly helpful in this case. Wikipedia's 
entries were a little more helpful with a suggestion that the derecho is 
driven before a storm front while a haboob, also associated is more of a 
down and outflow of cold air flowing away from the front.   Wikipedia 
suggests that NM does experience haboobs.   I've been in a few 
conditions on reflection might have been such where the dust-storm front 
not only preceded the storm front but in fact the storm front itself 
never arrived?

At my location, (Otowi bridge crossing the Rio Grande just at the 
northern pinch-point between Buckman Mesa and the foothill mesas of the 
Jemez outflow) We had a severe half-hour of wind, rain and (small) 
hail....  only unique in it's acute intensity and brevity...  we do 
often get a certain type of weather concentration as the topography 
9both local and regional) funnels something right over us.

FWIW, since Guerin turned me on to flight-tracker, I've been able to add 
evidence to my understanding that Otowi Bridge itself is a VFR waypoint 
so a lot of smaller planes may well fly at least within sight of the 
landmark so they can re-vector toward their next waypoint/destination. 
    So the same location seems to "focus" civilian air traffic as well. 
   The rio grande also seems to be a corridor for military/police 
helicopters... there seem to be a "pair" who meet roughly over my house, 
one northbound, the other southbound.  I'm guessing a Military training 
program out of ABQ possibly coupled with a ATF/State-Police 
drug-surveillance related activity.

I was looking because I wanted to see if Musk's LANL visit included one 
of his private jets in/out of LAM airport.   I didn't confirm.   I 
suppose if it were too easy, his jet would have gotten the same orange 
paint as StoneHenge and Taylor Swift recently?


On 6/20/24 6:18 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:
> We had a couple of power glitches, a high wind warning, and a severe 
> storm warning all between 6 and 7 pm.  The sky went apocalyptic for a 
> while.  The clouds had been massing east of the Organs earlier.  No 
> haboob warning, but the high wind warning was pushed to SMS and 
> included the usual cautions about how to drive when you can't see 
> anything in the dust.  The derecho in the satellite picture is all 
> west of us, you can see the lights of Las Cruces and El Paso at one 
> point in the video.
>
> -- rec --
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 11:05 PM Stephen Guerin 
> <stephen.guerin at simtable.com> wrote:
>
>     NIck,
>
>     Check out this Haboob moving across southern NM / northern Mexico
>         satellite animation:
>     https://guerin.acequia.io/incidents/HaboobAndSouthForkFire_20240619_2.mp4
>
>     Roger, did you experience it?
>
>     This while Ruidoso experiences Post Fire Debris Flow flooding and
>     loss of 2,400 structures
>
>     -Stephen
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