[FRIAM] the world is watching us...

Nicholas Thompson thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 29 09:12:52 EDT 2024


Oh, Jochen,

So much for American Exceptionalism.  We rode to greatness on the back of
slavery, immigration, expropriation, and genocide, and now, here we are, a
geriatric oligarchy, like everybody else.

Jesus Wept,

n

On Sat, Jun 29, 2024 at 4:45 AM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:

> In Germany politicians are horrified by the duel and argue that Biden
> should step back and retire. Both candidates are too old, and the mere
> thought that Trump - a convicted felon - might be elected again despite all
> he has done is horrifying. Maybe democrats could give Kamala Harris the
> chance to become the first female president? But I don't know how popular
> she is. If president Biden steps back now then democrats have enough time
> to pick a suitable candidate. He did well but is too old for a 2nd term. We
> can not risk Trump becoming president again.
>
> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/joe-biden-gegen-donald-trump-deutsche-politik-entsetzt-ueber-tv-duell-a-ebf216eb-aa7b-4ce4-904f-e0794f948e4b
>
> Scottish historian Niall Ferguson says the United States look increasingly
> like the late Soviet Union: senescent leaders who are far too old, a
> bloated military, a loss of morality and public cynicism about all
> institutions.
> https://www.thefp.com/p/were-all-soviets-now
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: steve smith <sasmyth at swcp.com>
> Date: 6/29/24 12:06 AM (GMT+01:00)
> To: friam at redfish.com
> Subject: [FRIAM] the world is watching us...
>
> What are our Non-USA members hearing/thinking after last night's
> debate/debacle?
>
> I felt that Biden's Rally today was something necessary for him (and
> Jill and the DNC) to do to demonstrate that last night was some kind of
> anomaly, but it doesn't erase it, just cleanses the palate a little
> bit.   I've also been listening to the various "who should the DNC pick
> in his place?" talk which is 'natural' but maybe premature to do publicly?
>
> I did listen to an European channel this morning (can't remember if it
> was England or German, both have British accented commentators) and
> there was a report of a strong "hands-off" response from their
> leaders.   Moscow did pretty much exactly what you would expect... I
> haven't heard anything from the Middle East, Africa, India, China,
> Southeast Asia or South America yet, but I would expect the "free world"
> to be disturbed no matter how things unfold down the line.
>
> In the vernacular, I'd like to believe that we could "elect a ham
> sandwich" against the likes of Trump, but that is obviously a biased
> opinion... maybe we *should* but that isn't the same as *can*.
>
> I don't see how the "West" benefits in any way from another Trump
> term...   Russia, NK, China maybe?   BRICS in the large, maybe some kind
> of wash?   Central/South/MX America?   Can't look too good?
>
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