[FRIAM] Starlink
steve smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Sep 12 17:30:33 EDT 2024
I'm on NMSurf.com for most of a decade now, after the grant-funded San I
wireless system ground to a halt after the funding went away... before
that I enjoyed a whole year of HughesNet satellight which was painfully
asymmetric and heavily latent. Before that dialup over the most poorly
maintained copper in the world/country/state/county (probably just the
latter). I think I'm paying for the lowest tier of 100Mbps and but I
don't get any better service than I did when I was paying (the same
price or a little more) for 25Mbps and similarly for 10Mbps before that.
The hardest thing I ask of my ISP is one or maybe two simultaneous video
streams (Netflix/Prime/Youtube, ???) and that was something even the
10Mbps (usually) served well enough.
I was pulling signal from 23 miles away Line of Sight from the top of
Big Tesuque for the longest time and it never failed, even in the
harshest snow/rainstorms... a-mazing. They relit the San lldefonso
tower just about 1/2 mile from me and I get (best I can tell) the very
same service, but it must be a lot easier/cheaper for them to provide
such. My downtime on top of the mountain was same or better, probably
because they were probably serving a lot more people from that location
and were a lot more on top of keeping the UPS and backup generators and
multiple backhauls up and running 24/7 A few bad storms had them out
of service for the long part of a day. I get the same
frequency/duration of outages (or higher) from my local "Tewa Tower"
source which is probably a combination of problems with right-of-way for
service on-pueblo and the small(er) number of clients (hundreds at
most?) served from there.
I considered Starlink a few years ago as a way to be redundant with my
neighbors who variously do use some version of Comcast and Qwest copper
lines. There was a moment when I though I could talk them into letting
me mesh all 4 houses together with 4 backhauls (comcast, qwest,
microwave ala NMSurf, Starlink) but they were not really up for being
that chummy or dependent on me/one-another I think?
What really stopped me was fine print in Musk's EULA which suggested
that by accepting his service I was implicitely endorsing the idea that
whomever landed on Mars first got to commercialize it. I wish I could
find that fine print again or some reference to it, maybe I made it up?
Oh, yeh, then he said "we will coup anyone we want"... buh!
- Steve
On 9/12/24 8:30 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> It depends on what's on the other end of your fiber connection :-)
> Here in land that tech forgot, getting more than a few tens of
> megabits feels luxurious. One carrier has fiber optic passing over my
> property, and they offered to tap into it and give me 20 megabits for
> the low low price of $100 a month. Starlink's 300 megabits for $45 a
> month is heaven on earth. Isn't Santa Fe still sort of part of the
> third world?
>
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 9:06 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> Neat trick, but no substitute for fiber. 🙂
>
> https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Gary
> Schiltz <gary at naturesvisualarts.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 11, 2024 8:50 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Starlink
> I have Starlink here in Ecuador and am very happy with it. But
> here it is only $45 a month and $120 there.
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM Gillian Densmore
> <gil.densmore at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What are folks's thoughts on this? for the atrocious choices
> of conned-cast or...nothing? or are there finally ISP's that
> aren't DSL here?-- How is it? what's it really like? are they
> anygood? the speed is still god awful at a pathetic 25mgs. but
> so is Comcast. Appallingly enough. We get snow storms and
> stuff, is it a blackout then?
> Asking because Comcast is going. From sometime early this
> morning to about 20 minutes ago being out. Being legendarily
> terrible and no one has had the korvnka's the slap them with a
> RICO anti-trust suit yet. God only knows why.
> So looking starlink and open to other options:
> they have to real propper internet, at least 200mbs each way
> and white-glove levels of service.
> CC owen as well. I suspect we've both had enough.
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