[FRIAM] money is a delusion
steve smith
sasmyth at swcp.com
Tue Apr 15 19:06:23 EDT 2025
Marcus wrote:
>
> There’s this trend..
>
> https://a16z.com/llmflation-llm-inference-cost/
>
And extracted from that:
Every time we decrease the cost of something by an order of
magnitude, it opens up new use cases that previously were not
commercially viable. For example, humans can speak around10,000
words per hour <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Words_per_minute>. If
someone were to speak for 10 hours a day, every day of the year,
they could now use a GPT-3-class LLM to process all the words they
said for about $2 per year. Processing the entire Linux kernel
(about 40 million lines of code) would cost under $1.
With the move toward having an AI-powered PDA (in your mobile phone or
glasses or earphones) or ambient listening everywhere, this is in many
ways more disturbing (not because of any specific worst-case imagining)
than many other things afoot today.
I don't remember when "life-logging" first started (Gordon Bell?) or was
proposed (but every LLM on the planet probably knows and even agrees)
but it seems to (now) be almost trivial?
I'm half expecting to see emerging the shadow version of Jonez's /Her
/with each of us slowly (by AI, not human standard-time) becoming
meat-puppets?
LLMs mediating/observing everything we do == Ophiocordyceps
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps>?
> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of glen
> <gepropella at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 8:00 AM
> *To: *friam at redfish.com <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] money is a delusion
>
> Well, I don't use the web interface enough to know how much free use
> can drive up OpenAI's costs. If it's true they lose money on every Pro
> user *and* the Pro user can cost them more than free users can, then
> that's the point. Drive their costs up faster than their revenue. Of
> course, because money is all fake anyway, they can just get more from
> wherever. So it's more of a joke than an actual attack plan.
>
> I'm no more miffed at the cute pictures than I am regular visual arts.
> I just don't get it ... I think I'm on the spectrum
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia>
>
> On 4/15/25 7:43 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> > Wouldn’t that be the strategy to cut off free users entirely? The
> key thing is to convince paying users that they are an advantage
> professionally by buying-in, and that OpenAI services are better than
> competitors? Honestly, I’m a little miffed by all the focus on cute
> pictures.
> >
> > *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of glen
> <gepropella at gmail.com>
> > *Date: *Tuesday, April 15, 2025 at 7:25 AM
> > *To: *friam at redfish.com <friam at redfish.com>
> > *Subject: *[FRIAM] money is a delusion
> >
> > OpenAI Is A Systemic Risk To The Tech Industry
> >
> https://www.wheresyoured.at/openai-is-a-systemic-risk-to-the-tech-industry-2/
> <https://www.wheresyoured.at/openai-is-a-systemic-risk-to-the-tech-industry-2/>
> >
> > OK. I've changed my mind. Please buy a fixed price subscription and
> absolutely HAMMER ChatGPT & Grok with stupid requests to interpret
> Miley Cyrus lyrics or explore the detailed implications of an
> Objectivist society ... or generate silly images of Trump with
> donkeys. Let's convince the Broligarchs that we think their toys are
> useful. And that even if there's a "correction" at some point, there
> will be plenty of spin-offs
> <https://tante.cc/2025/04/15/these-are-not-the-same/
> <https://tante.cc/2025/04/15/these-are-not-the-same/>>! (As if they
> weren't already enslaved by their Visions.)
> >
> > I guess the question begging to be asked for such a DDoS attack is
> what to do with the generated output. We want way too much for any
> human to look at. >/dev/null seems like a waste. Hard drives are
> cheap, though. Maybe we could store it for posterity? If there really
> is a societal collapse, maybe the alien anthropologists could reverse
> engineer these LLMs from their generative detritus.
> >
> > Meanwhile, in the actual world:
> >
> https://dailynous.com/2025/04/15/philosophy-major-snatched-by-ice-during-citizenship-interview/
> <https://dailynous.com/2025/04/15/philosophy-major-snatched-by-ice-during-citizenship-interview/>
> >
>
>
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