[FRIAM] genai and critical thinking
Marcus Daniels
marcus at snoutfarm.com
Wed Feb 12 18:58:39 EST 2025
I expect sooner or later they'll host Sage as Webassembly and host that in the analysis tool.
> On Feb 12, 2025, at 3:40 PM, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the FOMO pressure. I tried it out. The automatic code correction was interesting.
>
> me: Evaluate the expression e^(iπ). First try to show your work without using the analysis tool. Then execute the expression in the analysis tool.
>
> Claude: Let me solve this step by step first, then verify with the analysis tool.
>
> The expression e^(iπ) is a famous mathematical constant known as Euler's formula when set equal to its result.
>
> Manual calculation:
> 1) e^(iπ) can be expanded using Euler's formula: e^(ix) = cos(x) + i*sin(x)
> 2) In this case, x = π
> 3) Therefore, e^(iπ) = cos(π) + i*sin(π)
> 4) We know that:
> - cos(π) = -1
> - sin(π) = 0
> 5) Substituting these values:
> e^(iπ) = -1 + i*0 = -1
>
> Let me verify this using the analysis tool:
> ```
> import { complex, e, pi, i } from 'mathjs';
>
> // Calculate e^(iπ)
> const result = e.pow(complex(0, pi));
> console.log("e^(iπ) =", result.toString());
>
> // Calculate the magnitude (absolute value) to verify
> console.log("Magnitude:", result.abs());
>
> Result
>
> Error
>
> _mathjs.e.pow is not a function
> ```
>
> I apologize for the error. Let me correct the code:
> ```
> import { evaluate } from 'mathjs';
>
> // Calculate e^(iπ)
> const result = evaluate('e^(i*pi)');
> console.log("e^(iπ) =", result.toString());
>
> Result
>
> e^(iπ) = -1
> ```
>
> The analysis tool confirms our manual calculation: e^(iπ) = -1
>
> This is one of the most beautiful equations in mathematics, known as Euler's Identity when written as e^(iπ) + 1 = 0, as it connects five fundamental mathematical constants (e, i, π, 1, and 0) in a single elegant equation.
>
>
>> On 2/11/25 12:19 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> It’s what I’d do.
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>> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 12:13 PM
>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking
>> "by themselves they cannot calculate" but when prompted they will attempt any kind of task that wasn't blacklisted by their guard rails.
>> -- rec --
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 12:41 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
>> Huh, Claude just implemented the optimal strategy to Nim and ran in it its analysis tool (the Javascript engine on my browser).
>> *From: *Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com>> on behalf of Roger Critchlow <rec at elf.org <mailto:rec at elf.org>>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 11:36 AM
>> *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com <mailto:friam at redfish.com>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:15 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com>> wrote:
>> _[...]_ the evolving code itself -- code that can have informative types and even carry proofs. The weirdest thing about using AI is that it has no opinions. Claude will rewrite code without asking (seemingly having no self-control), but it will not confront you like a frustrated colleague might. It is happy to let you make a mess provided its sense of idiomatic code patterns are satisfied.
>> This echoed something an old boss wrote me today:
>> I have much enjoyment torturing llms. I can get off the rails rather easily. They have no state, by themselves they cannot calculate parity or play nim perfectly.
>> Or one might say, they have no purpose.
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