[FRIAM] GhostGPT

Thu Jan 30 19:59:38 EST 2025

I’m also using LM-Studio and AnythingLM to run local models. They are 
smaller than ChatGPT, but still fun to play with. When we closed down a 
business a couple of years ago, we left the support documents on the 
web, but I have put together an experimental system using llama3.2 along 
with attached documents including two PDF manuals and about 600 web 
pages developed over about a decade by our support staff. It seems to 
work pretty well, but I don’t think it provides anything that 
couldn’t be gotten by reading over 500 pages of PDF and 600 web pages. 
It does provide it a lot faster, though.

It is very responsive on a new MacBook Pro with M4 Pro.

— Barry

On 27 Jan 2025, at 11:38, cody dooderson wrote:

> Just wanted to share something kind of related. I've been using a 
> program
> called *LM-Studio *to run a chatbot on my local machine. Yeah, it's
> definitely slower than ChatGPT, and honestly, I don't think it's as 
> good
> either. But here's the upside: it's completely free, and my data stays
> right here on my machine—no cloud stuff involved, which is a huge 
> win for
> privacy.
>
> From what I can tell, these models still have guardrails. While they 
> might
> not be perfect yet, they aren't causing me any issues right now. It 
> might
> be interesting to see how these guardrails develop as the models get 
> bigger
> and more advanced.
>
> It can run small versions of the new DeepSeek model that is making the
> news. I used an 8 billion parameter model to help me rewrite this 
> email. I
> think the version in the news has over 100 billion parameters, and
> ChatGPT-4 may have 250 billion parameters.
>
>
> _ Cody Smith _
> d00d3rs0n at gmail.com
>
> * DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B-GGUF was used to write this email.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 8:50 AM Prof David West 
> <profwest at fastmail.fm>
> wrote:
>
>> More days searching for Ghost, not just pages about Ghost.
>>
>> I do not believe that the collective on this list could not supply me 
>> with
>> a URL, so IT must not exist, or it is intentionally being withheld.
>>
>> Steve,
>> I did dance on the edge of the abyss, and just a bit down slope. But 
>> my
>> targets were government facilities (trains carrying ammo across the 
>> salt
>> flats to San Diego and Vietnam) or institutions like large banks(they 
>> were
>> still incredibly naive with regard cybercrime in those days). Can 
>> still
>> quote my "Little Red Book," and, had they issued them, could show my 
>> SDS
>> membership. Tales for the grandkids.
>>
>> Gillian,
>> Everyone on the list knows I have indulged psychedlics since 1969. I 
>> know
>> how to extrract heroin, coke, and cook Meth; but have absolutely no
>> interest in doing so. Have grown shrooms and extracted psylocibin. I 
>> know
>> there is a fairly simple way to synthesize MDMA without using the 
>> banned
>> precursor chemicals and might ask Ghost about that.
>>
>> davew
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2025, at 6:34 PM, steve smith wrote:
>>
>> DaveW -
>>
>> OK, assume me to be a sociopath, but please tell me where and how to
>> access ghostGPT.
>>
>> I don't assume *you* to be a sociopath.  I assume that you have a
>> significant resistance to your own inner sociopath since you (by your 
>> own
>> anecdote) have played much closer to what to me would be the edges of 
>> an
>> abyss... or so I assume (fear).
>>
>> If the analogy holds, my greatest fear about being drafted into the
>> military was not that I would be killed or maimed by the enemy but 
>> that I
>> would learn to kill and maim and like it.  That by extension I would 
>> become
>> sloppy about how I identified "the enemy"... maybe during basic 
>> training?
>> It felt like a real and existential (to the most cherished part of 
>> myself)
>> threat.
>>
>> I have held a copy of the anarchist cookbook and even browsed through 
>> it
>> but again, shied away when I found my eyes drawn to closely to the 
>> details
>> of certain "tools" which had/have no obvious other purpose than to 
>> enact
>> asymmetric (and likely anonymous) violence on others.   This is not 
>> to say
>> that I don't have in my mind scenarios where such skills and tools 
>> might be
>> the only thing between myself and the annihilation of myself and all 
>> that I
>> love.   I am blessed to not live in such a context (so far, and for 
>> the
>> most part).  The fact that others live otherwise is a source of 
>> sadness for
>> me but I am not tempted to seek those borders and regions myself.   
>> My
>> instinct is that I am and would be an addict in such a space...  
>> would I be
>> good enough to survive long enough to truly become "a menace to 
>> society"?
>> Probably not.
>>
>> I can find hundreds of pages talking about the tool, but cannot find 
>> the
>> tool itself.
>>
>> I promise, no bombs, no drugs (I have my 1960s original copy of T*he
>> Anarchist's Cookbook *for that), but I do have thousands of questions
>> that I would like to ask, and it would be cool to do my own 
>> assessment of
>> the risk that such a tool might actually pose. Is that risk as 
>> overblown as
>> most of the claims made for AI, the dark web, or Silk Road (Ross 
>> Freed!!!).
>>
>> By analogy (again), I worked right up against secrets of nuclear
>> weapons...  There was little, if anything I learned about them that 
>> was
>> more shocking or horrific than what everyone knows about them, and 
>> that
>> knowledge did not seem specifically like a burden to me.   Maybe some 
>> of
>> the details of the fancy tricks used to make designs "intrinsically"
>> foolproof  (fool safe, safe even in the hands of fools?) made me
>> uncomfortable to be the vessel of such.
>>
>> I was much more uncomfortable as I shifted my exposure from 
>> "conventional"
>> nuclear weapons design (and many other things) to more "conventional"
>> military and intelligence projects.   By the time I left in 2008 my
>> clearance levels had risen, and exposure to projects put me in the 
>> orbit
>> (IMO) of the kinds of things that I think triggered Snowden (and 
>> others) to
>> take outrageous measures.   My biggest fear was that I was going to 
>> learn
>> or see something I couldn't unlearn or unsee.   I kept my clearance 
>> for a
>> couple of years, staying engaged with a couple of very mellow 
>> projects
>> which never came close to such information.   This was *before* 
>> Snowden.
>> His unfurling back in (2014ish?) was quite conflicting and PTSD-ey 
>> for me.
>>
>> I worked with people who *sought* to work on the most implicative
>> projects, and IMO it was *mostly* ego driven, but in some cases it 
>> felt
>> acutely that they were truly well, grounded people who had no "inner
>> sociopath" and knew it?
>>
>> One last tangential anecdote relates to my working my way through 
>> college
>> as a PI... the more I learned about the craft and the more I learned 
>> about
>> the targets of my clients (and more to the point, about my clients) 
>> the
>> less I wanted to do the work....  this was Flagstaff, AZ  a pretty 
>> small,
>> nominally innocent town but the surface(s) I scratched trying to 
>> scratch
>> out a living for a young family lead me to see and know things that 
>> would
>> have been miserable to live with had I remained there.
>>
>> The red/blue pill dilemma?
>>
>> Mumble,
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>>
>> davew
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2025, at 8:48 AM, glen wrote:
>>>
>> https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com
>>>
>>> "GhostGPT is a chatbot specifically designed to cater to
>>> cybercriminals. It likely uses a wrapper to connect to a jailbroken
>>> version of ChatGPT or an open-source large language model (LLM),
>>> effectively removing any ethical safeguards. By eliminating the 
>>> ethical
>>> and safety restrictions typically built into AI models, GhostGPT can
>>> provide direct, unfiltered answers to sensitive or harmful queries 
>>> that
>>> would be blocked or flagged by traditional AI systems."
>>>
>>> --
>>> ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ uǝןƃ
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