[FRIAM] reasoning

Tue Jul 1 13:42:40 EDT 2025

This is really beautiful to me.

I’m not an expert in the theory behind why e^(iπ) = -1, but as an engineer,
I’ve come across it many times.

I first worked with it on a project early in my career. I modeled a 3-phase
unbalanced AC system to optimally control a metals melting arc furnace in
real time. The work was very successful, and even after many years, I still
feel proud of it.
The changing currents and voltages, as the furnace loads shifted, depended
on complex numbers — and e^(iπ) = -1 is just a special case of that kind of
math.

Later, I developed a general model predictive control (MPC) software
package. That too was based on the same kind of complex number math —
again, where e^(iπ) = -1 is a special case.

So even though I don’t fully understand the deep math, the ideas around
e^(iθ) bring back fond memories.

But that was a previous life. These days, I’m working in AI — and loving it
just as much!

On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 at 00:20, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As for teachers who barely understood.what they were teaching...
>
> At Carnegie Mellon the guy who usually taught digital signal processing
> was on sabbatical, the guy who taught it when the first guy wasn't
> available was just made director of the Robotics Institute.  I had
> mentioned a desire to teach so they decided I should do it.  I said "but I
> never took that course."  The RI guy said,  "You'll do fine. It's just
> math."  The course was for about 40 MS and a few PhD students in EE.  The
> text was by Oppenheim and Schafer.  As I read it I wondered where the
> theorems and proofs were.  Long story short, with help from a control
> throry professor who was available to answer my questions it went OK.  I'm
> sure most of the students knew I was a beginner.  On the student
> evaluations I got 3.2 out of 4.
>
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> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 3:07 PM glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> IDK. I can't help but wonder if a walk through a reasoning process like
>> this would have helped me at 17 or so, fresh off geometry, trig, algebra,
>> etc and headed into calculus. Complex numbers were largely opaque, despite
>> some exposure. I don't think they clarified until college. Add in the
>> ability to raise the temperature parameter, iterate a couple times, and it
>> may well have been helpful ... more so than my "teachers" who barely
>> understood what they were teaching and my calculus teacher who seemed to
>> believe she could telepathically push things into my head.
>>
>> But I *definitely* think a few breaks in the reasoning to play with the
>> dog or argue about whether pineapple or anchovies belong on pizza would
>> have helped me pay attention longer. >8^D
>>
>> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>> > Blah, blah, blah.  He should have stopped at e^(i pi) + 1 =0
>>
>> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> > So conscientious!   There was nothing about being hungry or wanting to
>> play with the dog.
>>
>> On 6/30/25 1:05 PM, Santafe wrote:
>> > wow.  Disingenuous performative much?  Who programs these things?  That
>> level of smarm is malicious in and of itself.  Having just watched the
>> thing on Alex Karp and who is running “things” these days.
>> >
>> >> On Jul 1, 2025, at 3:02, glen <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Inference was running slowly. So I decided to see if the GPU was
>> actually working. It wasn't. So I had to shut everything down and restart
>> the container. Then to test, I thought I'd ask Qwen3 a simple reasoning
>> question. The attached is the result.
>> >>
>> >> OMG. Please think more quietly. I feel like I'm at the pub sitting
>> next to one of those super talkative people who just get worse as they
>> drink.
>> >>
>>
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