[FRIAM] Free will—ghost in the machine or just clever wiring?

[Frank Wimberly]

What is "EPR"?  What is the attraction to acronyms about?

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Frank C. Wimberly
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2025, 11:38 PM Pieter Steenekamp <pieters at randcontrols.co.za>
wrote:

> Seth Lloyd’s Turing test for free will (
> https://www.informationphilosopher.com/solutions/scientists/lloyd/Turing_Test.pdf)
> is to consciousness what EPR was to quantum physics: a challenge to the
> theory's completeness. EPR said quantum weirdness must hide something
> deeper; Bell said “let's test that”—and nature replied, “nope, it’s weird
> all the way down.” Nobel Prize, case closed.
>
> Lloyd asks: can we prove the mind is just machinery? His test says: build
> a machine that behaves indistinguishably from a human and believes it has
> free will. If you succeed—great. But failure proves nothing.
>
> Unlike Bell’s inequality, this test can only confirm, never deny. No
> ghost-busting here.
>
> Until then? It’s speculation. The Standard Model explains almost
> everything—except the quantum gremlins and how observation messes things
> up. So maybe the mind still has an ace up its sleeve. Or a soul. Or a bug
> in the code.
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